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<p>Bescraze hurt my feelings</p>
<p>Brownman, people like you are the reason I hate liking schools like harvard.</p>
<p>Elitish snobs running around blah blahing their way through life.</p>
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Brownman, people like you are the reason I hate liking schools like harvard.
Elitish snobs running around blah blahing their way through life.
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<p>Thank you. Bescraze is not an elitist snob at all.</p>
<p>You are proving my point.</p>
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<p>Please try to take responsibility for your own actions. Its an important part of growing up. This is not about me, as much as you would like it to be, but about you.</p>
<p>They should add a gaming-style voteban option on CC.</p>
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Ahhh so you believe that where you attend college reflects on you as a person?You believe that the Ivy/elite schools are all that really matters.
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<p>Nope I never said this, but this is something you have been accused of on countless occasions. You don't need to tell me to learn how to think. I don't believe that going to an elite school is all that matters, but you really have no right to go around telling people to learn how to read or think when they make an honest mistake. Maybe it's you who needs to learn how to think because your logic is terrible... you're just putting your thoughts and words into my mouth. You're the self-proclaimed elitist- you have claimed that you are an elitist on numerous occasions on these boards in the past. You have twisted my words to display your own sentiments here.</p>
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<p>I think you need to relax. My comment on the other post was one of sarcasm to show you the evil of your ways. I understand that I hit a nerve, but please if you feel the need to further justify your elitist sentiments feel free to pm me. Sincerely yours</p>
<p>Bescraze</p>
<p>Bescraze, </p>
<p>Let's be friends and put all this behind us.</p>
<p>sounds good</p>
<p>I do like a happy ending.</p>
<p>Define "overrated" and then let's talk who is doing the rating. True, a lot of man-on-the-street people overrate some schools b/c, frankly, they've heard of them. Or underrate them b/c they haven't heard of them. Thus, in the eyes of some, UNC is better than say, Case-Western, if only b/c of the athletics. "Mere exposure" effect is no way to decide if somethings valuable or not.</p>
<p>Somebody up thread said that it's about the recruiting- where do top firms on, say Wall Street recruit the most? Good... and not. Bigger schools are just going to kick the butt of some smaller schools if just from sheer size, assuming quality of education/recruits are the same. There are all sorts of measurement problems with USN&WR, Business Week, and everybody else trying to sell magazines by selling faux objectivity (and if you think all that data collection is handled well... you might want to double check your facts, b/c that's not quite the case. Granted, my knowledge is anectdotal, but in the world of data collection, that's not useless- it's at least one seriously messed up data point.)</p>
<p>And let's not forget the No University Left Behind effect of teaching the 'test"- My UG university likes to send out guilt-trips from the development office reminding us how important % of alumni giving is and how it'll jack us up in the ratings, and making us all look better as in "Hey look- we went HERE and look where it's rated in USN&WR." (P.S. Dear UG university: Oh bite me.)</p>
<p>Further, if you have schools with just amazing grad programs (your Harvards, your Whartons) and you send a survey out and say "where are your top recruits, undergrads..." what's going to float to the top of the responders brain is the brand name (WHARTON!) and not necessarily thinking "wait- was he grad or undergrad?" B/c that recruiter guy could care less about how how accurate he is in filling out some survey (a common issue in surveys- getting people to take them seriously). So does the brand name of, say, Wharton's grad school have the effect of floating the undergrad boat up- sure! Does it mean that Wharton sucks as an undergrad school? Uh. Not exactly. Just maybe benefitting in the ranking from something that isn't really part of the undergrad school. So let's make sure we don't equate "overrated" with "sucks." But surely undergrad schools w/ strong grad programs benefit in some components of undergrad rankings that schools without those grad programs (say LAC) don't. And w/ LACs not having athletic programs... a lot of students end up hearing "Wait- you go where again?" But again, man-on-the-street evaluations of quality are worth exactly bupkus, unless you are looking for a job in a car dealership, which hey, you might.</p>
<p>I went to Ph.D. school at a Research 1 institution that is routinely ranked right on up there in its field and guess what- we weren't just TAs. We were good, old fashioned teachers, w/ classes of 90. Not 400, but still... that's not "handing out papers." Also, where do you think those Ph.D. students from Duke are headed when they graduate and have never taught before? Out there, somewhere... teaching somebody. You can't dodge OTJ training- you are getting it somewhere. (For what it's worth- I'd like to think I was a pretty good teachers as a Ph.D. student- so just b/c you are Ph.D. student teaching doesn't mean you suck, just like being a Full Prof w/ Many Many Publications means you aren't more boring than that Bueller Bueller guy.)</p>