<p>Hey guys,
what would you rank as more prestigious, a Bachelor in Jurisprudence (Law) from Oxford University in England or a BA in International Studies and a BSc in Economics from UPenn's Huntsman coordinated dual degree program?</p>
<p>Thanks! :)</p>
<p>If you want to do international business/econ, Huntsman. Idk what a Bachelor in Law does, though. Paralegal? Idk. I thought to be a lawyer you need to get a JD.</p>
<p>Huntsman.</p>
<p>FYI, you can do undergrad law studies in England and become a lawyer in the classical sense.</p>
<p>In 95% of the world, a law degree is a bachelors. I would personally take the Penn program so that I can apply to law school, and spend more time in school.</p>
<p>I just thinking, for a future lawyer what’s a better educational experience (I’d assume international law or corporate law for MNCs?). Huntsman of course. I’d assume the BJ (lol, Bachelor’s in Jurisprudence?) will be obsolete when you get the JD, while the Econ and International Affairs degrees will be very relevant.</p>
<p>Huntsman is MUCH harder to get into. This one is easy.</p>
<p>This sounds like a joke. How can any program at Oxford be compared to Huntsman? Prestige wise, Wharton=Oxford. Earning potential wise, Huntsman>>>>>>>Oxford.</p>
<p>To be honest, I am jealous. Its not possible to pick the more prestigious program. There is so much you can do though. You can do your LLB at Oxford then do an MBA at Harvard or Wharton. You could do the huntsman program, and work hard and enter a top law school and become a corporate lawyer. No matter what you are set for life financially. When the dough starts to roll in sends some to sefago</p>
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Oxford>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Penn</p>
<p>Belonging to an elite niche program doesn’t supercede the umbrella institution that you are a part of. If you leave the US, no one will know what Huntsman and everyone will know that Oxford is perhaps the most prestigious university in the world.</p>
<p>Anyways is your final goal to be a lawyer. Law school in the US is gonna put u in tons of debt. I would not advise it man except you are american. Then its not going to matter anyways</p>
<p>"Oxford>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Penn</p>
<p>Belonging to an elite niche program doesn’t supercede the umbrella institution that you are a part of. If you leave the US, no one will know what Huntsman and everyone will know that Oxford is perhaps the most prestigious university in the world."</p>
<p>If you are solely into name recognition, then you should attend Harvard, which has a bigger name recognition than Oxford. I believe that in many parts of the world (where technology and merits drive prestige), Cambridge and Stanford has a bigger name recognition than Oxford. In places that matters (ones that would enable you to make money), people would know Huntsman. If you really want to impress your dentist, sure, choose Oxford over Huntsman.</p>
<p>A BA from Oxford is definitely more prestigious, but studying law at Oxford only makes sense if you plan to become a lawyer in the UK, which, in turn, would require two or three years of additional vocational training beyond the BA. A degree in economics or IR would be a better option if your intention is to stay in the US.</p>
<p>@IvyPBear: as far as overall international reputation is concerned, Shanghai’s ARWU ranked Oxford #10 in the world in 2010, whereas UPenn was ranked #15. THES, which is a British ranking, had Oxford at #6 and UPenn way down at #19.</p>
<p>Thanks guys! I do know about the vocational training in England, and I know that a few years of work after graduating from Huntsman would allow me to finance Law School. I chose Huntsman, IMO it’s more practical (plus i did ED, so I don’t really have a choice). Feel free to add opinions and comments though, because this is an interesting question! Cheers :)</p>
<p>I think you choose right 
Frankly, I never ever heard about Huntsman, but despite how prestigious Oxford is, in case of law, I think it makes no sense to study abroad for a first degree. Maybe later, if you’re dealing with international law, you can study for a degree in Oxford, and boost your CV. Although it’s better do go to Yale or Harvard. It’s law after all, which differs in every country (with the exception of international law and such things).</p>
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<p>I dont think so. For the Huntsman program (If you know what the Huntsman is), you would be aware that even Harvard would be difficult to choose. We are talking of $$$, who cares about imaginary stuff like prestige.</p>
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<p>The ARWU does not measure overall international reputation. Most of its rankings are based on citations, past achievements e.t.c The THES is a joke. UK universities are the best in the world lol with schools like Manchester and Bristol (As someone who has been to both these universities, they have tons of international students who cannot speak English properly and would under no circumstances be allowed into second-rate schools in the US) having a better reputation amongst employers than Dartmouth. *** Which employers exactly lol. </p>
<p>World rankings are even worse than domestic rankings. </p>
<p>Only two groups of people cite world rankings with such vigor: British/EU/anyone in British university and US public school people. The former because its the only way they can console themselves despite an ineffectual educational system, and the latter as evidence that publics are in the same league as Ivies.</p>
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<p>Boost your CV to whom exactly?</p>
<p>Good point sefago. I think rankings between universities aren’t relevant to my question to begin with. Both Huntsman and an Oxford LLB (or BJsc, I think it’s called) are top of the pops in their own fields. It seemed to me that Huntsman’s edge is that it opens doors to any company, anywhere in the world, whereas an Oxford law degree may be globally renowned, but on the most part just prepares you for a legal career in the UK.</p>
<p>sefago@: "The ARWU does not measure overall international reputation. Most of its rankings are based on citations, past achievements e.t.c The THES is a joke. UK universities are the best in the world lol with schools like Manchester and Bristol (As someone who has been to both these universities, they have tons of international students who cannot speak English properly and would under no circumstances be allowed into second-rate schools in the US) having a better reputation amongst employers than Dartmouth. *** Which employers exactly lol. "</p>
<p>Yeah, sure, you are right, that world rankings could be jokes, Times and Qs especially - Imperial and UCL in the world top ten? No way! The ARWU is a much better ranking, and seems more real too.
But nobody were talking about Manchester, Bristol, and the like, but Oxford. Tiny little difference Nobody is saying that Bristol or Manchester are world class institutions, but hardly anyone argue that Cambridge and Oxford are world top 10. And not because of their past, but because of their present :)</p>
<p>But again, it’s law, and in case of someone who is American and wants to practice in the US, so going to Penn is definitely wiser.</p>
<p>no way in hell BA from Oxford is much more prestigious than a B.S. from wharton, and huntsman gives you TWO degrees.</p>
<p>@Sefago, the only people who use international rankings are people like RML who think UC Berkley is the hottest *****.</p>