My parents are divorced and I went to my mother with NCP waivers to fill out; however, she told me they weren’t necessary and that a letter my guidance wrote will suffice. I told her they were mandatory to fill out and submit as listed on school websites, but she silenced me and told me I didn’t know anything. I’m thinking this is why my older sibling was refused aid at the schools they applied to, but my mother is not willing to listen to me. What do I do?
Your mother would not fill out the waiver. She would fill out the financial information. Based on what you presented; you know where she is and you have contact, you will not be eligible for a non_custodial waiver. If she does not supply her financials your application will incomplete and you will not receive any institutions
Aid. Also remember wilful misrepresentation, including lying on yourfinamcia
Aid forms (which seems like what your mom wants to do) is grounds for rescinding ypoyr admissions, revoking ypour diplo ma lwaving ypou with a worthlless piece pf paper, repaying all aid you fraudulently received , not receiving any future aid
@sybbie719 I’m sorry my mother is my custodial parent. I would fill out the waiver myself but I would like her to look it over to make sure what I put down is fine.
But I don’t think your mom even needs to sign the request for a non-custodial waiver at some schools. Just get the info to the schools that need it. Why wouldn’t you do that?
But do remember one very important thing. At many schools, you need to request a waiver annually.
@thumper1 I understand that, but at my schools that require the NCP profile (almost all of them) and have provided waivers for them, she doesn’t see it necessary to even fill them out and submit them. It’s very frustrating because she made half the list to the colleges I applied to because they provided good financial aid, yet this vital step in the financial aid application she is ignorant about and refuses to complete, and so institutional aid wouldn’t be available to us.
So then you need to do it, even if your mother won’t look it over.
Agree with @BelknapPoint.
Just submit the waivers. Your mom does NOT need to deal with them at all.
You mom does not fill out the request for a non custodial waiver. It must come from a neutral third party who knows you and your family situation. Usually a guidance counselor
Where is your dad and why are you requesting a waiver. Do you have any contact does he pay child support or spousal support
I haven’t had contact with him an almost five years, but I think he might pay child support? I only worry about my mom looking them over because maybe if I fill them out a certain way that indicates I have some contact with him I won’t receive the waiver.
Child support is considered contact
@sybbie719 sorry to bother with my questions but could colleges ask for legal documentation that prove contact?
If your dad pays child support, there is a way to contact him. Some schools will expect you to use that contact means tomget him to complete the non-custodial parent Profile.
Yes, colleges can ask for anything thing they want when it comes to distributing their money. They can ask for divorce decrees, to see support orders, visitation, documentation of support paid and unpaid, copies of orders of protection, police reports, etc.
Your mom can basically say anything, which is why the colleges will not take a request for a non custodial waiver solely from her. The neutral third party does not have a vested interest (where you and your mother do)
@zofro99 The NC waiver process can vary widely based on the school. It sounds like you have a guidance counselor letter already. Submit that and then contact each school and ask what else they need. Some schools will waive based only on a third party letter some wont waive simply because you receive child support. It is a very subjective decision and only the school can answer for you.
Does your GC realize your family receives child support? If not, isn’t she putting her reputation on the line with a letter that states you are not able to contact your dad? Granted she wasn’t told the truth by your family but it still could come back on her in some way. This is really a dicey situation any way you look at it I’m afraid…
@JustGraduate Just because someone receives child support doesn’t necessarily mean they can contact the NCP. I filed for child support through the District Attorney so I have no access to the NCP’s address/employment information. I filed for it 13 years ago. So even though I receive child support, I do not know where the NCP is, nor do I have any contact information for him. The counselor put in our waiver letter that her dad is not on her birth certificate or on her school records and they have no way to contact him. This is completely accurate. I understand that is not the same as this situation, but there are situations where receiving child support does not mean contact (and it will be up to each school to determine if they will waive based on this info or not).
@MSHopeful my understanding is that child support = contact in this. In your particular case, information could be passed from you or a university through the DA to the NCP asking for info. Not pretty or efficient but there is a way to contact. Maybe I’m wrong on how FAFSA views this but this is my understanding. Glad your GC letter was adequate and more documentation was not required.
@JustGraduate We shall see which schools grant the waiver, if any. I don’t know yet if the counselor letter was adequate, I was just stating that what was in it is indeed accurate. My DD has had no contact with her father since she was 6. We also had other letters from third parties. So it’s all still up in the air, but it is my understanding that not all schools automatically look at CS as contact, or that it automatically precludes you from receiving a waiver.
@JustGraduate First of all NC issues only relate to the CSS Profile and have nothing to do with the FAFSA. Second, the vast majority (not all) of schools recognize that the simple fact a family receives child support does not mean that they have contact with the NC parent and are not going to issue a denial simply based on this fact. The more generous the school the more likely they are to use the “relationship” standard and not just the “contact” standard. However, as I indicated earlier even within these broad ranges there is an extreme amount a variability from school to school and we are often surprised when a colleague indicates that they would or would not waive given a particular set of facts.