Parents of non-NM finalists, did your kid get scholarships at OOS state universities?

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<p>Yes, I have seen U of Cin. as the top school for ID.</p>

<p>As far as a portfolio-no, he doesn’t have an organized one. He’s late to the game, but a number of the schools don’t require a portfolio to apply. U Cinn does not require a portfolio. Neither does CSULB or SJSU. I don’t know about Purdue.</p>

<p>What he’s done formally is animation. What he’s done informally for years is design a non-digital game; you know, moves, character names and sketches, plot, story line, etc., but he’s no great artist, or at least not yet. He’s really the “ideas” person, if that makes sense. He also makes things-little things. But he’s not one of those kids getting a patent for his work at age 15, ha-ha.</p>

<p>His music portfolio will be ready for those schools where he might consider music as a major or minor. He’ll record in Aug.</p>

<p>I’m hoping he can get some help in organizing his game/animation/design portfolio 'cause I don’t know how to help.</p>

<p>The biggest problem is, though he said he thought ID sounded like a great idea, that’s not a certainty. As of now, there’s a list of about 17 different colleges with about 7 different majors.</p>

<p>Good to know ID is a clique-y bunch when hiring. These little things he would probably learn along the way.</p>

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<p>My D goes to Purdue. She had similar stats to your son. Our EFC was around $3800 her first year. She got the $10000 presidential scholarship and need base scholarships enough to cover tuition. With her loans, work study, our college savings and co-oping we are able to afford it without us borrowing money. I don’t know whether her being a female in engineering had anything to do with it but we ended up pleasantly surprised that it was affordable for her. She is now a sophomore and will start her co-op position in the fall. </p>

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<p>Do you mind me asking how much in loans your D expects to have when she graduates?</p>

<p>Congratulations to her, btw!</p>

<p>Our EFC was a lot more than yours ($9500) this year, but for my 2015er’s first year in college, with two kids in college, it will be lower.</p>

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<p>My D went to Purdue OOS as a transfer but her situation was different because she took time off. Part of her time there she was considered independent so our income wasn’t taken into account. I do know that after her first year there she received some additional departmental scholarships.
West Lafayette is also super affordable compared to most places my kids have lived. She had a really nice 2 bedroom apartment close to school for just over $550 a month. With two people sharing it is a good deal.
Younger D got great OOS merit aid from Univ of Montana that put it under 10,000 out the door.</p>

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<p>Wow, $550 a month?? For a two bedroom? That’s what a 2 bdrm So Cal apt. cost back in 1988! Now they’re about $1500!</p>

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<p>OP, With a 1400(Math+Reading)/32 ACT your son can get automatic full tuition/fees plus 2K per year toward room/board at U Texas - Dallas, leaving COA including books/supplies around 8K/year. </p>

<p>If he had 1510/34, he could get full tuition/fees, and 6K per year toward room/board, leaving COA including books/supplies estimated around 4K per year. He should also sign up for the Honors program.</p>

<p>UTD has an Arts and Technology major, everything brand new, state of the art-- and is also known for CS and Engineering. No essay, interview, APs or subject tests required–just scores/GPA/transcript. These are automatic scholarships, but $ is limited, so those who apply early will be guaranteed. Check it out: <a href=“http://oue.utdallas.edu/aes/”>http://oue.utdallas.edu/aes/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>We assumed when she chose to matriculated that she could borrow up to the maximum Stafford loans. So far we have been able to avoid un subsidized loans. We hope with her co-op that she will be able to graduate debt free or at least limit her debt to about $10k. She is very frugal and is not a partier so that helps. Her weekend events would be ushering at the events at Elliot Hall and attending free events on campus with friends. We had the “financial” talk with her. She was set to accept an instate school with mandatory co-ops. She was accepted to CWRU with enough scholarship and grant money to make it affordable as well. However, she liked Purdue the best. Good luck to your son.</p>

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<p>atomom, Yes! UTD is on the list absolutely. My son won’t retake the SAT, unfortunately, but will take the ACT, and it does say “average SAT”, so it’s possible to still get it. Believe me, I will encourage my son to apply to UTD as soon as the app opens.</p>

<p>My oldest son and I visited UTD as he was a McDermott Scholars finalist and I really liked it. Ok, it helped that they wined and dined us, ha-ha. Loved the way the dorms are set up so that kids can still have their own private space.</p>

<p>Does Apply Texas open 8/1 or 9/1?</p>

<p>That’s great that your D really likes Purdue, ivvcsf! It does sound like a great school.</p>

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<p>I know that you’re asking about state universities, but in looking at a list of colleges/universities which offer industrial design, I noticed Notre Dame and RISD. Brown offers a program along with RISD and like ND is very generous with financial aid. I know you can’t count on these and need some safeties, but it sounds like your son might have a good chance. CMU was also listed, but they tend to be very loan heavy and do not meet 100% of need. And I’m sure that none of this is news to you, but just in case. (I also haven’t read all the posts so this may have already been mentioned.)</p>

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<p>@sbjdorlo‌ University of Utah has scholarships just pay attention to deadlines. Also if you live there the summer after freshman year you are considered a resident and get in state tuition </p>

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<p>I’ve asked my son about Univ. of Utah; he says he’s not sure, which means he doesn’t have time to look at it yet, but it’s on the list for the moment.</p>

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<p>Do think about Purdue. They have good co-op opportunity since your kid is likely going for engineering. They are a kind of generous in aids to qualified oos students. Of course, if you mind to be in the middle of corn fields. ;)</p>

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<p>Did your son look at San Francisco State? They have Industrial Design.</p>

<p>With lower stats (also ID), my son got some merit awards from Ohio State, Arizona State, and U. Cincinnati, but not huge. Our EFC was higher than yours, but all of them gapped us. There are a lot of strong OOS DAAP students at Cincinnati, and it’s a big school, so it’s hard to get one of those 10 Cincinnatus full-rides (that award is greater than their NMF award).</p>

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<p>buenavista, where is your son if you don’t mind me asking?</p>

<p>My son wants more suburbia rather than city. SJSU or CSULB are better fits in that regard.</p>

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<p>SFSU is not in the densest part of San Francisco. If you look at satellite views, it borders golf courses, neighborhoods of detached houses (as opposed to row houses), neighborhoods of apartments with lots of grassy areas between them, and a mall. It probably counts as suburban, but at somewhat higher density than most suburban areas (not as high density as the more “city” parts of San Francisco).</p>

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<p>Good to know, ucb.</p>

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<p>Below are cost estimates for 3 categories of schools: California in-state public universities, OOS public universities, and selective private schools. Source: college on-line Net Price Calculator (UCLA, RISD) or College Abacus (others).</p>

<p>Assumptions
CA resident
$76,000 family income (split evenly between married parents)
$20,000 in financial assets, all in cash/checking
$5K paid in income taxes
No home equity
3 children, 1 age 14, 1 age 17 (HS junior), 1 18 or older (already in college); 5 exemptions
GPA=4.0, SAT M+CR=1500
Fall 2015 admission</p>

<p>Estimated Net Costs of Attendance
$39,899 Purdue (OOS)
$31,700 Virginia Tech (OOS)
$23,843 Carnegie Mellon
$18,018 RISD
$16,422 CSU-SJ (in-state)
$15,405 Cal Poly Pomona (in-state)
$16,141 University of Southern California
$14,909 Alabama (OOS; appears to reflect merit aid, but may also reflect most expensive R&B plans)
$12,172 UCLA (in-state)
$11,280 Harvey Mudd
$9,405 Brown
$6,955 Vanderbilt
$6,782 Olin College of Engineering
$4,589 Yale</p>

<p>Your Mileage May Vary
Except where otherwise noted, the above estimates appear to reflect need-based grant aid (but not loans).
The OP probably is correct to focus on opportunities for large merit scholarships if she wants match/safety schools with net costs below $10K (without loans).
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<p>Another admission+financial safety option would be a state university within commuting distance.</p>

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<p>sbjdorlo: I sent you a PM.</p>

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<p>tk21769,</p>

<p>The numbers are fairly accurate except that we have far less in assets and we do have a little equity. Also, my son’s GPA is 3.95 and SAT is 1480. I know there is at least one scholarship, Auburn, that requires 1490, so I know my son may miss some cutoffs. If his ACT comes in at 34 or higher, I think he can still go for some of the those same scholarships.</p>

<p>Running a calculator for the Cal State gives me a grant at <em>all</em> the schools of $7067.</p>

<p>So, if my son attended either of the two local cal state schools, he could basically go for free if their tuition is around 7K. Does that make sense, though? And though my son’s stats are in the 75%+ for the local cal state schools, they are very “in the box” and we shall see what they do about the fact that my son is a private homeschooler, so I am not assuming that he’ll get in.</p>

<p>So then, if he goes to an out of area Cal State school, according to the calculator, we’ll be on the hook for room and board, which could be 12K+, and whatever tuition costs above the $7067 tuition. </p>

<p>So, for a school like SLO, it might come out to between 13-15K. Such a bummer! :frowning: </p>

<p>As ucb pointed out in another thread, the cal states don’t vary the grant based on if a kid lives at home or if a kid lives in the dorms.</p>

<p>So, does my son apply to any out of the region Cal States or not? I don’t know…</p>

<p>For UCs, UCLA was the least expensive as you pointed out, except for UCSD, for which my son could be a commuter, but doesn’t have the major he likely would want, and again, because he’s a homeschooler and it’s admit rate is low, no guarantee he could get in. </p>

<p>So yeah, the list of schools includes reach schools that give great need-based aid to families in our income bracket, state/UC schools that are the best “deal” financially, and I’m hunting around for schools that offer enough merit with the right combination of majors to make it worth applying.</p>

<p>My goal is to figure out what schools are really worth applying to since those app fees, SAT, ACT, CC transcripts, etc., add up to a serious chunk of change. OTOH, I don’t want him to miss out on a possible school just because I want to save fifty bucks! :-)</p>

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<p>You’d still have to bear whatever food, utilities, transportation, and other costs of him living at home (that you are covering while he is in high school / CC). If he does live on his own, or you move away while he is in college, obviously there will be his cost of living on his own, but you would no longer have the cost of supporting him at home (which the UCs and CSUs estimate at $4,000 to $7,000 or so, but probably vary a lot by household, and it may take time to calculate since it is scattered in bits and pieces around your household budget).</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/onestopkiosk/documents/AdmissionHandbook.pdf”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/onestopkiosk/documents/AdmissionHandbook.pdf&lt;/a&gt; (page 5) discusses home school applicants. If your home school curriculum is associated with a California public or private high school listed in <a href=“http://doorways.ucop.edu”>http://doorways.ucop.edu</a> , then the courses are counted for a-g requirements. Otherwise, there is individual evaluation with its uncertainties. Note that many a-g requirements can be satisfied by SAT subject test scores, AP scores, or college courses, so he may want to cover any “missing” categories that way (see the rest of that document).</p>