Parents of the HS Class of 2013

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<p>Well, first off, I personally adore Georgetown (was accepted there myself many moons ago!) and if I could have snapped my fingers and sent my son anywhere and guarantee that he’d love it, that’s the place I would have picked. It just has such old-world charm and DC is fabulous. When we toured, I kept wondering, “Why was I stupid enough to turn this place down for NU? What was I thinking?” LOL. (though admittedly I went to NU for a very specific program not available at Gtown) S liked it a lot and was very favorable, but it never rose to strongly seeing himself there the way he did with Tufts, NU and Kenyon at various points.</p>

<p>Having said that … They don’t take commonapp, and the SFS essay, at least, was a very difficult one that I know my son sweated over (and was glad to hit the delete button on when he got in elsewhere). It required policy analysis at a high level, and you can’t just pick a boil-the-ocean problem such as “solving issues in the Middle East.”</p>

<p>Some useful info re: SAT subject tests:

  1. take MATH 2 right after precalculus
  2. take US History right after finishing APUSH.</p>

<p>This is the info from this site , DS did just that and he is not regretting it ;)</p>

<p>If ds2 has to write a deep essay that requires critical thinking, maybe we can take it off the list!</p>

<p>DS is having a blast at Kenyon. I haven’t heard much about the writing ;)! But he says the food is good and the computers are really fast. Everyone is “nice”. He said he thinks he could share a dormroom in college. He’s an only child and an Aspie, and that has been a concern for both of us. So that’s a relief. He has actually been hanging out in Kenyon’s amazing gym, playing tennis!!! That’s a shock for me as he is the most unathletic boy I’ve ever met. Oh, and he’s picked up playing pool. I’m just really psyched that he’s trying new activities. I was concerned that he would just go to the classes then hang out in the computer lab watching youtube videos by himself.</p>

<p>That’s great, ree. I think showing kids that they can handle college life and picturing themselves there is one of the best things about these kinds of programs.</p>

<p>Kelowna: thanks for that update on the SAT II’s; D2 is taking those 2 classes this coming year and plans to take those two tests next June. Hopefully, she’ll know by then if any of her intended schools require them; if her list doesn’t include any SATII requirements then she’ll forgo them.</p>

<p>Along the lines of Reeinaz, D2 is enjoying Sewanee’s writing program. I’ve heard a lot about the writing they’re doing and it sounds fantastic.</p>

<p>Just called for D’s score for AP Gov. Yeah, “5” first time she has taken one of these tests!</p>

<p>Bernese: Yeah!! So I forget, how much does it cost to call? And when are they supposed to come in the mail?</p>

<p>It is 8 bucks to call. I think they are mailed pretty soon, can’t remember from older son.</p>

<p>They usually come in the mail around the 2nd or 3rd week of July, depending on where you live. If you go over to the AP testing area of CC you can watch the anticipation building ;)</p>

<p>ETA: BerneseMtn: that’s awesome! Congrats to your D!</p>

<p>I am not even going to tell DS there is an option of calling for AP scores.
We will be OK by mail (I will, as long as it comes before my departure for Europe )</p>

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<p>DS took the tests right after the class and he got 800 in both. He is a good tester, but those trig formulas you have to remember, and CC has always said there are no two tests as similar as APUSH and SAT US History. So keep this in mind.</p>

<p>I think we have finally found a math mentor for DS. He came back from the second meeting and he was really pleased. He says solving problems one on one is very diffetent from working in a group.
DS LOVES to get the right solution, he does not enjoy the process of getting there as much :wink:
Got ACT results by mail today. 10 for the essay. Which I think is incredible for the guy speaking another language at home. The only thing I told him on the way to the testing center, was that for ACT essay you have to write contargument as well. </p>

<p>Happy fourth of July to all :)</p>

<p>Does anyone know if the PSAT tests that the college board sold (I no longer see them on the website; they were the actual tests) have an answer key to them? We received the tests last year, but there are no answer keys. </p>

<p>My daughter is awaiting an appointment at Columbia-Presbyterian Lyme Disease Center, and it could take months. The dr said if she is not recovered in 3 months, she’ll have to go out next year on medical leave. This now explains her total inability to concentrate all year, and I honestly don’t know how she was able to even get A’s and B’s at her school with the difficulty of the classes. Given the commute (50 miles a day) and the hashimoto’s the dr said he is surprised she made it. She is now sleeping 12 hr days, and has to reread paragraphs 2-3 times when she is able to read her favorite books. We’ve had to put up blackout curtains and she wears sunglasses inside as the headaches and eye pain are so severe. She can barely get up. </p>

<p>She is so worried because she is doing nothing this summer, but at this point, she has no choice because of this insidious disease. It is now doing psychological damage and is classified along with neuropsyche disorders which I’m finally glad they did. I’ve said since her first bout of lyme which has not been as extreme as this one, that it should be up there with ADD as it presents the same symptoms.</p>

<p>She is trying to at least do psat tests (but I’m not hopeful as she is so exhausted). But without the answer key, they are worthless.</p>

<p>Happy 4th of July all!</p>

<p>Meda: Good luck to your daughter!! The poor thing!! I hope the medications kick and she turns a corner soon. On the bright side though, almost every college admission essay involves “overcoming obstacles” and she will have quite a story to tell! </p>

<p>Happy 4th to all!!</p>

<p>Wow, Medavinci! I am so sorry that your daughter and her loving family have to go through this. I wonder if you could do something drastic like give her a gap year in the middle of high school just to recover. The NMSQT corporations says you have to take the PSAT your next to last year of high school and you can not spend more than four years in high school but when my D was an exchange student between sophomore and junior year that year did not count. I feel for you both.</p>

<p>tx5athome and Apollo6 thank you both for your kind wishes. From your lips to God’s ears as we say! Apollo6 you gave me food for thought. I had always said to my D kiddingly that there should be gap years in high school, but we knew it would not have been possible. I better check with the NMSQT to find out about medical leaves (if only she were an exchange student in a more perfect world!). I know at her high school (the one we are not returning to) the kids did semesters abroad but never a full year, perhaps for that reason. How wonderful your D got to live abroad. My d is a swedish citizen (due to my soon-to-be-ex-husband), and she can live or go to school anywhere in Europe. I had already called Karolinska Institute, since they are up on many scientific breakthroughs. I don’t know if you all have heard that the European Parliament has been cell phones for children 18 and under due to their belief in the brain cancer connection. Also, they pulled laptops out of classrooms in many countries in Europe, because of the wifi scare (UK, Sweden, Switzerland, Germany and by now, perhaps many more). UK PowerWatch has a lot of good articles. I brought it to the attention of my d’s school (since they are given laptops in 7th gr and use them in the class to take notes) as it has always been a fear of mine (having had 3 cancers), but the head of the tech dept brushed it off saying the routers were not near the classrooms (???) and were in the auditorium. There is so much we don’t know about routers, wifi, cell phones, but it comes to the point where you have to trust your gut. I do not put a cell phone near my ear, and even with kids texting, as long as the phone is on, they are still exposed to radiation per the report. It reminds me of cigarettes in the 50’s (we had a dr who would examine us as kids with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth, so my mother figured if the dr was smoking, it was ok. Sadly, she died from emphysema, which is a horrific disease). </p>

<p>As for the lyme, and sorry to bore everyone, but I thought if I can save another child or parent from what we are going through, knowledge is power, then I’d post this. It is so hard for me to watch my daughter go through this health issue. I’ve gotten some feedback from several people that even with all the antibiotics, etc. they kept relapsing; however, a friend of mine’s son, who had been on the dean’s list at penn, had to take 8 months off to recover as he slowly hit rock bottom from this insidious disease. On his own, after antibiotic treatment, he bought some herbs after careful research, and used colloidal silver and a combo of others to heal himself. He attributes the herbs to the cure and getting back to 100% again. But he said that he went from dean’s list to solid D’s that year because he just couldn’t function nor absorb the materials. </p>

<p>I don’t think people appreciate the seriousness of the disease (even with my d having it twice before, I never knew that all these crazy symptoms she had were attributed to lyme - it tends to be looked at as more arthritic than neurological and people think you need that bullseye rash as well). In my d’s case, she only had knee pain with her 2nd bout with lyme, but she never had a bullseye rash in any of her cases. </p>

<p>They have also found out that a lot of people are misdiagnosed with alzheimer’s, MS, dementia and Lou Gehrig’s disease, when it is lyme that has been undiagnosed for many years. I have to say looking back, my uncle had the bullseye rash and was treated for lyme (he used to play a lot of golf), however, a few years later was diagnosed with alzheimer’s and no one ever connected the two because it was back in the early 90’s. It is only now that the research being done has made that connection. </p>

<p>I’m going to be tested next week, and my dog (who I keep inside since the deer on our property are rampant), will also be tested. I have friends whose dogs have gotten the lyme vaccine but still got lyme.</p>

<p>Anyway, enough about our problems! Brighter days ahead for all!</p>

<p>Happy 4th everyone! We’re spending the day grilling, going to a Texas Rangers game and enjoying fireworks. Can’t imagine a more classic July 4th than that.</p>

<p>Still haven’t had more than a 2 minute phone call with my son. Every time I call, he’s either in the middle of an activity or with people. Is that what happens when your kid finally becomes engaged in life? Thanks Kenyon!!</p>

<p>Most school districts will definitely give you a “gap year” for medical reasons or even other reasons. We went abroad when my son was starting 9th grade; he was battling depression and was very very small and imature for his age. We thought a change of environment and a year of zero social/academic pressure would help us avoid medication and we were, fortunately, correct. He tested into the 10th grade abroad but the school was so tiny it had kids from 4-18 so looking so young didn’t matter very much and it was a very warm and welcoming community. He did fine with As and Bs and did well on the IGCSEs despite having only one year of prep. We came back to the states and the district looked at the transcript and wanted to put him into 11th grade. We asked that he go back to 9th grade (effectively putting him back two years academically) and he was still the shortest and youngest looking freshman out of 500 kids. We didn’t need a doctor’s note or any type of evaluation. They just took our word for it that he needed to be with kids that were his physical/emotional peers. He hit his growth spurt/voice change/puberty exceptionally late–almost 17 so it worked out well. He still can pass for 16 or so and is carded at movies, but he is thriving after one year of college. He would have flunked out if he had been forced to start college at 17 (looking like a 12 year old) instead of 19. </p>

<p>We know several kids who repeated a year of HS and all classes after a medical problem resulted in many missed days and bad grades. The district worked out a special schedule for a kid with a sleep disorder who did her junior and senior year 1/2 time (1 extra year of school, basically) because she could only take afternoon classes. Go to the district now and find out how they will deal with her if she is unable to start classes, can she go part time, what happens if she has to withdraw…if the district and school know ahead of time that she has health issues they are usually going to be happier to help than if the problem arrives on their plate in September with all the other urgent issues they have to deal with. </p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Bumping us from p4 and venting.</p>

<p>I know I am way too concerned with kiddo’s acadmics and college list. </p>

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<li><p>I was so anxious for AP score I offered to pay the $8, but son didn’t keep his AP number.</p></li>
<li><p>Met with friends last weekend at a picnic. Their kid is off to a very good college in Boston come fall. I had to do the smile & nod thing.<br>
Last year I questioned their app list as very reachy and no financial safety. These are very involved parents and I was surprised that they let school counselor create the “big” list which their son narrowed to 6 apps. The kids was denied at some schools, which shocked the parents. The parents are still in shock that kid got so little merit money and that their EFC is so high. They “only” make $100k combined. Now they are stuck borrowing to cover part of the EFC. Duh - kid applied to 6 schools, 4 of which do not have merit money. They asked me to guess their EFC - I got it within $1k and they were shocked. They know I’m obsessed with my EFC and run the silly calculators quarterly. </p></li>
<li><p>Planning first road trip with son to visit schools in August. I know I should not let knid fall in love with 1 specific school, but to be honest it is too late for me. I already have my favorites for him.</p></li>
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<p>I think I am far more obsessed with son’s college process than I ever was with my own. Trying to be a closet planner and only admit this to you all. Unfortunately, my husband is starting to catch on. </p>

<p>Have a good weekend everyone!</p>

<p>(warning…long post)</p>

<p>Longhaul…I think that this is precisely why you, me and a lot of parents are so active on CC. We can vent and express angst anonymously and not stress out our families or let them know that we are stressing </p>

<p>I have to say that I have found a great resource during my son’s college search (the fine arts forum is extremely laid back and lots of fun discussions about art and literature and food) but also very useful in terms of advice related to applying to fine arts programs. </p>

<p>I think this thread is a good place to vent about our 15-16 year olds who are not quite into the college process. Since D is my second, I now can see that with either a little or a lot of effort all kids eventually get into a school that is good for them. I am completely at ease about grades and tests compared to the first time around–I don’t know her PSAT score, I didn’t know APs had come out, I didn’t know her grades until the report card came home. However, my experience with my son made me move up one very important conversation with her. I have one piece of advice: have the money conversation now, not senior year. </p>

<p>Like you, I worried terribly when S was applying to college about costs because when I did the FA forms it was clear we would not be eligible for any aid but loans. However, ineligible for FA does not mean that we could pay unlimited amounts for college or that the costs gave me serious heartburn. I thought this was my problem and my husband’s problem…I felt like S was still a child and financial decisions were our responsibility. I finally managed late in the college search process to make it my son’s problem instead of mine. I said to him : You have $X for your education from the various sources. Spend as you like, but when it is gone it is gone. Do not choose a school where you will go beyond this budget because you may have to drop out. This $X money is ONLY for food/board/tuition/essential travel even if you get a scholarship . What you save from your education fund by getting scholarships and working can be used for grad school but will not pay for expensive apartments or lavish lifestyles. S, with full information about what funds were available for his education, made his choice based on his/our means and has worked on campus to pay for his books/supplies/entertainment expenses. I felt bad that I put this in my son’s lap during his senior year which was not, perhaps, enough time to really absorb this concept and he did not make his initial choices where to apply based on this information. </p>

<p>D HS '13 is being told now exactly how much is available for her education. I put it in a spreadsheet–$X college fund=$Yfrom us, $Z 529 savings, $V Grandpa’s savings. She can divide by four and figure what is the “annual” limit and how much she will need to get from merit aid, student loan or her own earnings if she chooses a school that costs more than this. She can see how much she will save if she goes in state or gets a big merit scholarship. She knows that she can use those savings for law school etc. if she is frugal her first four years OR she can blow it all on an private undergrad with no merit aid. In the spreadsheet are the current tuition and fees/room and board of a few tentative colleges. It is a shock to see that some schools go way beyond the budget but most are doable without scholarships/loans.</p>

<p>She understands that this fund will not be used to pay for sorority dues, non essential travel, books or entertainment once she goes to college. She sees from the spreadsheet that we and her grandfather have given her a lot of choices but not an infinite number of choices. She often has chided us (first generation immigrants) for being so “cheap” sometimes joking and sometimes upset when (yes, this is true) I refused to buy popcorn at the movies or pay for a trip to a resort instead of camping. She just said the other day that she now appreciates our values a bit more because one of her friends has been told that her parents will only pay for CC or local school yet they just bought themselves two new audis. She recognizes that we value education over all other luxuries so we have scrimped and saved to give her choices but the choices are limited. Also, she can see that she may have some control over what she can and can’t do in terms of college choices by working and seeking out scholarships. I reflect now that I was wrong to shield my son from my concerns about money and college. D feels in charge of her destiny in terms of college and I suspect she will be much more proactive in her college choice process than her brother was. </p>

<p>Anyway…this was my biggest takeaway from the college search process …that, and use CC to express all the anxiety and angst that you feel so that your family thinks that you are handling the college search process like an Eastern mystic…(whisper as your mantra…“save it for CC, save it for CC”)</p>