<p>Why is that humorous?</p>
<p>
[quote]
Anyone else have underachieving parents...Ignorant parents are so frustrating
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Boo Hoo...If you were my kid dissing me all over the internet, you wouldn't get a freakin' dime of my money. A wake-up call is in order here to wipe away that outrageous sense of entitlement. Your parents need to be tipped off about the value of a gap year. Spending that time supporting yourself in the real world should do the trick. </p>
<p>
[quote]
I feel that I should go to a college where I deserve to go
[/quote]
At 18, you're a legal adult. A fully-funded college education is a gift, not an obligation. Don't like the terms? Well then, you're eligible to take out your own loans, assume the debt, and make your own decisions independently. That way, you'll get exactly what you say you "deserve."</p>
<p>
[quote]
**it is something I have to do
[/quote]
**</p>
<p>Choose to do.......</p>
<p>
[quote]
It sucks when people take things in the perspective of parents. I busted my a** studying and taking the most rigorous courses, and succeeding in both academics and ECs. Its no easy work, and I excelled above everyone in school and took advantage of every oportunity I had, all this under a belief that one day I will be a student of my dream school. And when that chance comes, its ruined because parents cant pay or help out. I would work for long hours and all nighters just to do well on standardized tests so that I meet their standards. Trust me, its devastating, when dreams shatters right in front of your face.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Dont parents get any of this? This is how alot of students feel.</p>
<p>
[quote]
Dont parents get any of this? This is how a lot of students feel.
[/quote]
Only really spoiled ones.</p>
<p>Your parents did right by you encouraging you to work to get good grades, so that you would be able to succeed on your own after you finished high school. Presumeably you qualify for great financial aid and could attend your state university without a problem.</p>
<p>So all this work for nothing? Just to know that you are capable of getting accepted to your dream school, but you wont go since parents cant pay? Thats lame.</p>
<p>
[quote]
**but you wont go since parents cant pay
[/quote]
**</p>
<p>If your parents cannot pay you will get financial aid.</p>
<p>Actually, I don't think you're Oxford material.</p>
<p>Oxford is very different from an American education, because you are expected to live a more independent lifestyle (as opposed to typical American dorm settings) and the focus of your education is much more specialized. It really is for students who have a level of maturity that your posts don't reflect - no one is going to hold your hand or make things easy for you at a place like Oxford. </p>
<p>Also, I don't know what your area of interest is - if its business or finance, you don't seem to have the requisite initiative to really make it big in those fields. You are mistaken if you think a degree from a top university is an automatic entry into high paying job. As long as you lay blame for your own limitations on anyone else, you just don't have the qualifications to make it to the top in the corporate world. </p>
<p>As I have said above, your parents gave you the foundation for the rest of your life. If you are not ready to fly on your own at 18, then that is your problem - not theirs. As I said above, a gap year might give you a better grasp on reality, and will also provide the opportunity to improve your financial situation.</p>
<p>Not at Oxford.</p>
<p>
[quote]
Also, I don't know what your area of interest is - if its business or finance, you don't seem to have the requisite initiative to really make it big in those fields. You are mistaken if you think a degree from a top university is an automatic entry into high paying job.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>My dream is to work for Lazard. No way will I have a chance if I apply there from FSU :) I think I am being mature. I am not the one assuming one is "spoiled," "ingrate" and "not qualified."</p>
<p>
[quote]
I know for a fact that I have a good chance at Oxford. I'm worried if my parents will take the loan for Oxford education.<a href="From%20Post%20#5">/quote</a></p>
<p>????</p>
<p>So what's the problem? You weighed in with a gripe about Oxford.</p>
<p>The cost is the problem, not getting in. It really sucks to have parents involved in such instances, but thats what the contract requires.</p>
<p>We always say assumption like it's a bad thing. Fact is, your posts are the basis for the parents' statements. These are well-founded assumptions, not unfounded ones. If you showed some maturity or gratitude, then the assumptions would be different.</p>
<p>And please, your dream is to work for a white-shoe investment firm? Believe it or not, those firms require an incredibly level of intensity, initiative, passion, and commitment. You can demonstrate that at any university or college you choose to attend. However, the only thing you seem to be right now is a petulant brat who's upset because he didn't get his way.</p>
<p>And it sickens me that you don't realize the value of an education. If the only reason you worked hard in HS and want to go to Oxford is to eventually get a good job at the end, that's sad. How about appreciating the "fringe benefit" of your hard work? You're well-educated. Maybe you even learned some time-management skills along the way. You learned that hard work pays off. Why don't you apply that lesson to business. Hard work will pay off anywhere, whether it's FSU or Oxford.</p>
<p>To all those criticizing the OP: if this had actually happened to any of you, you wouldn't be saying this. I'm sure you all are going to the school of your choice (well, at least of the ones you got in).</p>
<p>Umm, I don't know if I am or not, I will give you that. But most of the people criticizing him are parents...</p>
<p>
[quote]
And please, your dream is to work for a white-shoe investment firm? Believe it or not, those firms require an incredibly level of intensity, initiative, passion, and commitment. You can demonstrate that at any university or college you choose to attend. However, the only thing you seem to be right now is a petulant brat who's upset because he didn't get his way.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>First of all, I have all the characteristics for working their -- intensity, passion, and iniative, all three evident in my app, believe it. It'll suck to have all these to waste. Lazard recruits exclusively from Harvard, Wharton etc. A student from a state school in florida, has no chance of getting a prestigious position as the wharton students.</p>
<p>
[quote]
Maybe you even learned some time-management skills along the way. You learned that hard work pays off. Why don't you apply that lesson to business.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>haha, 4 years of busting my a** for this ****, you must be kidding.</p>
<p>btw, I am not the OP.</p>
<p>
[quote]
To all those criticizing the OP: if this had actually happened to any of you, you wouldn't be saying this. I'm sure you all are going to the school of your choice (well, at least of the ones you got in).
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Hazmat is a student at Penn. I wonder how he would feel in my shoes.</p>
<p>
[quote]
**I wonder how he would feel in my shoes.
[/quote]
**</p>
<p>I am applying for grants as we speak: to study at Oxford........but I will only go if I get OPM. I have always worked during school and during the summers. Are you asking feel as to schools or money.</p>
<p>The cowardly OP has gone into hiding.</p>
<p>
[quote]
Hazmat is a student at Penn. I wonder how he would feel in my shoes.
[/quote]
Baiting hazmat? This should be interesting...</p>
<p>
[quote]
It really sucks to have parents involved in such instances, but thats what the contract requires.
[/quote]
No it doesn't.
That is what I mean by "immature" -- you want something, you don't qualify on your own for financing, so you see "parents" as being the only solution. No where is there an inkling of an idea that you can and should be doing something on your own. I mean, I still haven't heard one good reason why you can't take time off from school and work for awhile. If you want something badly enough, its worth working for. The work experience would pay off in the long run in terms of building a resume. If you are the type of go-getter that would do well in the career field you are looking at, you can probably do very well in a job where some of your earnings come by commission- that is one way that youngsters who have an aggressive, competitive approach to work can break out of the low wage jobs and make some real money. Heck... if you could earn a few thousand dollars, you might even be able to make some money doing your own investing and trading -- that would be a lot more impressive in a job interview than, "my mommy and daddy lent me the money so I could go to a fancy school."</p>
<p>The people who achieve their dreams are those who work hard and make it happen on their own. What others perceive as barriers they see as challenges to be overcome.</p>