*Penn Class of 2020 Early Decision Discussion*

Does anyone know how many people get deferred vs. outright rejected? I know they only accept about 100 people after deferral, so I’ll probably lose all hope if I get deferred anyways (i’m a legacy too, so if they defer me that will be why), but I’m just curious

I know no one really knows the answer to these things but is the fact that im from a high school that like only sends students to the state flagship gonna hurt? I’ve heard that schools like it if they are familiar with your high school :confused:
Also im not a legacy and im asian and i didn’t cure cancer so I should probably just give up (yes currently having a breakdown)

@VaishS Ugh like no one from my school ever gets into UPenn and same tho, I think I mentally gave up awhile ago…the odds are really stacked against me…Asian…non-legacy…average ECs…I don’t even like math/science…I just don’t know

@emilyskates Literally same for all the characteristics you just mentioned… I’m an unhooked Asian girl with mediocre grades :’( I keep betting on this “holistic” admissions thing but who knows how far that’ll take an application… I’m just keeping my expectations really low and hoping for at most a deferral

also I just found out recently that about five other people are applying ED to penn from my school RIP (two of them for engineering and one of them for Wharton while I’m applying CAS, but still!)

@shadyconcepts There are eight other people who are applying ED from my school (by far the record), and I am from the Boston area!!! That’s ridiculous. I am a hooked applicant (which I had no control over and it really isn’t that fair to everyone else), but of the eight other people who are applying from my school, one is URM (black), 2-3 are recruited athletes, and one person’s grandparents founded the robotics department/currently teach at Penn. If I wasn’t hooked, I would have no shot. I don’t know of any who are applying to CAS though, so I guess that is good. Nobody I know is applying for my major (I have a somewhat unique major/backstory for it, but I don’t know if that counts for anything) Normally, 2-3 people get into Penn from my school every year, but we did have one year recently where 6 got in, so I’m hoping that happens this year.

For everyone though it’s always good to keep expectations low. I have lower stats than most people anyways, so I’m not expecting much even as a legacy applicant.

@jarrett211 Guess this year is pretty unlucky for us! But same for the school, usually 2-3 people at most get into Penn from my school. I’m nervous because no one last year who applied ED to Penn got in, which is kind of scary! But good luck to the both of us, and I do hope your hook comes through for you, even if things like legacies are arbitrary and things we have no control over. I’m sure for Penn ED it will definitely mean something.

@emilyskates your grades, though! I’m only in the top 10% of my class because of the less rigorous courseload. At this point, I’m really only banking on my ECs because those are what took up 80% of my time the past 4 years.

@shadyconcepts @jarrett211 That’s so weird. I think I’m the only person who applied Penn ED from my school. Although we have a ton of people applying Cornell ED. And apparently Northeastern EA which everyone and their mother applies to around here. Like I thought it would be an excellent match school but apparently not.

I have no expectations right now. I at least hope not be rejected outright because EVERYONE knows I applied Penn ED and that would be embarrassing. I have a tendency to not be able to shut up…ever…
Typically how many people get deferred?

@shadyconcepts I think you’re my secret twin…this whole not liking math/science thing really confuses my family. In my family I’m that freak that’s not a math/science whiz and really likes history and creative writing. Also-I don’t play an instrument. I do a sport that’s not tennis or swimming so I think I’m the true freak. Hey, it won’t be half bad if we both end up at NYU. NYU is great (glass half full, glass half full, I chant to myself…)

@Najubhai I’m certainly hoping the six APs I’m taking right now count for something…it’s literally such a struggle to go to practice for three hours, come home totally mentally and physically exhausted and bruised, and try to concentrate on homework. I love figure skating but my god it’s a stupid sport. Who thought doing tricks on a 1/8" blade was a good idea?? And honestly, I’ve gotten really lucky with the teachers I’ve gotten at my school. My AP Calc teacher’s grading policy is whack and I know I don’t deserve my 98 lol. And my French teacher counts quizzes more than tests. But of course, colleges don’t know that which may work in my favor lol.

@emilyskates @shadyconcepts I’m also planning to do ED2 for NYU if I get rejected! This whole waiting process only drives me nuts because I think about the chances all the time; there weren’t many people who applied to Penn in my school before and those who applied got rejected. I’m also an Asian without any hooks and there’s nothing very very spectacular on my app :confused: Hoping for the best for all applicants on CC though!

I’ve got 4 or 5 other people from my school. None of them know I am applying

People from my school don’t even realize that Penn is an Ivy and think it’s the state school of Pennsylvania if that says anything. UPenn will probably look at my high school on my app and think I’m stupid. I don’t think anyone from my school district has ever gone to Penn.

It’s like guilt by association except with stupidity. I am stupid by association xD

Hey guys, I applied for Huntsman ED October 30th and was contacted by a Huntsman alum for an interview on November 5th. She lives in New York and I live outside of Philly so she did it over skype on November 6th. She just asked about myself and my passions and what drew me to Huntsman specifically. I am the president of the National Honor Society, so she asked me to elaborate about that some more and what I’ve learned in that position. I also asked some questions about her experience in the program. I think it went well but it’s hard to tell over Skype. I’m not sure if my body language was positive but I think I feel peaceful about it. We’ll all find out in a month! Good luck hopefully future classmates!

@hannaagram that’s awesome! Good luck! :slight_smile:

@hannaagram Did you wear a suit up top and pajamas below? lmao

Guys I’m kind of freaking out… this marking period I think I’m ending one AP class with a C :frowning: It was the first class I’ve taken where tests make up like 80% of your grade and other things like labs, homework, quizzes barely matter. I’m kind of freaking out. All my other grades are A/A-'s (okay, I have one B in AP Statistics) and I’m taking 6 AP Courses. If they ask me for my first quarter grades, am I screwed?? (my weight this marking period is still higher than my cumulative because of all the AP courses though)

The decision will come out on my birthday or the day before it

I wouldn’t worry too much about your quarter grades …more so worry to get them up by mid year report IF you get deferred to regular decision they will look at the mid year report. It doesn’t say anywhere on Penn’s website about submitting quarter grades to them- although some students here have indicated that their school automatically does this. I would tend to think most schools only submit a mid year report and those are only required for students not admitted during regular decision see below -

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Thanks for the reassurance @runswimyoga ! I’m just afraid of the slim chance that they may request first quarter grades, because I hear some schools do that when they are on the fence about an applicant. I pray that doesn’t happen!! I would much rather send them my midyear report if I get deferred.