Penn state VS UofM twin cities

<p>Hey guys every advice will be appreciated. It's a really important decision for me, I have been struggling with this for weeks!
Now I'm at UofM-twin cities.(ranked 68 ) I just got admitted by the carlson business school, which ranked #17 best undergraduate business program in US. And if I stay in carlson, I only need 60more to finish undergraduate education and I can have double major degree(Finance and international business). And I already have some friends at UofM, life is more fun here. But the wether is horrible(6 months winter)
I also applied to penn-state university park(ranked 46), and got into economic program. But I can't transfer to smeal business school later because I already have a lot of credits. Since I transferred, I lost a lot of credits, so I need 80 more credits to finish undergraduate education with majoring in economics and minoring in finance.
Now I can't decide whether to leave UofM or not. Because I want to move to New York after graduating, and Penn state has really strong alumni network, transferring to penn state can help me find a good job and build good network. I just think if I stay in UofM, I'll move to a city without knowing anyone 2 years later, and basically because you move, you lose your college friends. But does penn state worth that? Thank you very much for reading all these, I will really appreciate your advice!!!</p>

<p>Stay at UMInn. Another good alt would have been to transfer to Wisconsin with instate tuition deal. UW has more east coast placement connections than UMinn.</p>

<p>Thanks! Barrons! :slight_smile: But i’m an international student, so I’ll pay out-of state fee anyway. I just really worried two years later if I decide to stay.</p>

<p>OK, isn’t UMinn way cheaper then?</p>

<p>Yes way cheaper. But I really want to move to new york after graduating. I dont know if it gonna happen if I choose to stay. :(</p>

<p>Since, there is a 10k difference, I think you should go with Minnesota. Academically, both are similar colleges but the location is very different.</p>

<p>I would go with UM, you might end up liking Minneapolis/ St Paul better than NYC anyways.</p>

<p>The weather at Penn State is only marginally better than in the Twin Cities, and with at least 80 credits pending, chances are that you would be at Penn State for three more winters, not just two.</p>

<p>More importantly however, your international status will be a much bigger barrier for employment than any imagined difference in the powers of the Penn State and U Minn alumni networks. Take the offer from Carlson, and work hard there to build up your contacts so that you have a good chance of landing a decent position for your OPT after graduation. The sooner you are pursuing your OPT, the sooner you will be able to start looking around for an employer that will help you get an H1-B visa(if you want to stay in the US longer), or that will help you get a good position outside the US.</p>

<p>Thanks barrk123! I grew up in Beijing, so I really love big cities. twin cities are really small and so few asians. New york has more asians and chinese things.</p>

<p>Hmmm. The Twin Cities is one of largest metro areas in the Midwest. And why did you choose the upper Midwest if a sizeable Asian Pacific Islander population was important to you? Since you were admitted to Minnesota I would guess that you had a good chance of being accepted at UWashington, which has a fine School of Business. Wherever you end up, you need to give the fact situation a bit more scrutiny before you make a final decision.</p>

<p>@ lake washington hahaha When I applied to umn as a transfer student, I seriously knew nothing about America. I can only chose between Umn and osu. and because umn is in downtown, so I chose UofM, I really knew nothing at that time. I thougt LA and san francisco were the same city… That’s why I really want to take my time on this decision. Thanks for reminding</p>

<p>OK Song. Everyone learns from experience. Best of luck to you.</p>

<p>If you like being in cities, you will have an adjustment at Penn State. Happy Valley is pretty isolated. </p>

<p>I just don’t see what you’d be gaining by transferring; the winter weather in central PA is not exactly tropical, and Penn State is not “close” to NYC by any stretch of the imagination. You might as well stay in Minneapolis. It is much more culturally and ethnically diverse than the Penn State area.</p>

<p>Yeah, actually I heard about that before. Only 5%asian in Penn state University, U of M at least have 12%. And that’s so nice of you to send me that message. I don’t have enough posts, so I can’t reply to private message. I will just write here. Thanks a lot for reminding me that. Yeah, actually that’s my another concern. Since Penn state is not even in a city. It would be really hard for me to do internship while studying. And U of M is actually really close to downtown Minneapolis. I know, U of M seems to be a really good choice. But I just don’t want to myself to regret 10 years later. Regret that I had a chance to move to New York, but I gave up.</p>

<p>And Business world really cares about net work, I don’t want all my network stay in Minnesota if I plan to move to New York later. 90 % percents of U of M students will stay in Minneapolis, but nearly 40% of penn state students will move to new york, 90% will stay in East coast. I know moving just for network sounds really stupid, but if I plan to move, I should be well prepared.</p>

<p>And I really appreciate everyone who replies to me, your advice really means a lot to me. Thank you very much!</p>

<p>“It would be really hard for me to do internship while studying. And U of M is actually really close to downtown Minneapolis. I know, U of M seems to be a really good choice. But I just don’t want to myself to regret 10 years later. Regret that I had a chance to move to New York, but I gave up.”</p>

<p>But you wouldn’t be going to New York! You would be going to the middle of Pennsylvania, where you would almost certainly be trapped in classes for at least five (if not six) semesters in order to knock down those 80 credits.</p>

<p>Have you specifically asked the professors at Carlson about their contacts in New York? Have you asked which internships in Minnesota you would be eligible for as an international student? Have you asked for their advice on landing an internship or post-graduation year position in New York? Start with the people at U of MN, and find out what options you have.</p>

<p>@ happymomof1 Thanks for the suggestions. I have already made the appointments with them. Hope they can answer some questions. And yeah, that’s actually my concern as well. graduating from penn state with an economic major doesn’t guarantee a job in new york at all, especially when I’m an international student. Ivy leagues are all competing with you.</p>

<p>UMinn has a decent placement report. 4% of Carlson grads get jobs in northeast incl NYC. kinda low but something.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.carlsonschool.umn.edu/MBA/full-time/career-services/documents/CarlsonSchool_2012EmploymentReport.pdf[/url]”>http://www.carlsonschool.umn.edu/MBA/full-time/career-services/documents/CarlsonSchool_2012EmploymentReport.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Thanks a lot! Barron!! :slight_smile: that really helps!</p>