<p>Who is easier? Zettl or Shapiro?</p>
<p>anyone…?</p>
<p>I took 8B with Shapiro. She’s a nice person. She had hard midterms but an easier curve at the end.</p>
<p>Her midterms are dreadful because half of them is multiple choice. Yeah, it’s like doing Mastering Physics for an exam, although there is no penalty for wrong answers.</p>
<p>Zettl’s lectures are clear and he has clean diagrams. His midterms are difficult but the class is curved, and difficult exams are good because they produce a nice bell curve. I recommend Zettl if you know how to work the bounds of your integrals and choose which variables to differentiate (AP Calc BC material). This also means being able to switch out variables - if you have L = mv, then you should be able to see that dL/dt = m*dv/dt because m is constant (you’ll never have a scenario with partial derivatives).</p>
<p>ahh these are very similar responses…im still stuck
who gives out more As?</p>
<p>If you set up the problems well and use the right formulae (my hint is to have all the equations, namely the boldfaced ones in the book, on your cheat-sheet), then even if you make a small mistake on each problem you’ll probably get an A in Zettl. The graders give good partial credit if you were solving the problem well and had the right formulae written next to the problem (you don’t have to do this but just by having that scribbled down can actually get you some points). So, if you solve the problems using the approach taught in the class and do two or three practice midterms before each exam, I would recommend Zettl.</p>
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You make this sound far more trivial than it actually is. Zettl likes to throw very intricate, creative problems you’ve never seen before on his exams, and so good intuition and reasoning tend to outweigh any “algorithm” you’ve memorized to solve a problem.</p>
<p>In any case, I’d recommend Zettl all the same. He’s a great professor - he has good hand writing, is approachable, funny (surprisingly), clear, patient when there are questions, and his lectures are very well paced. He also relates tons of the physics you learn to real world applications that are very interesting and shares a lot of ideas and inventions with physical pertinence, including some his very own that he’s done research on.</p>
<p>Then again (sadly) all most people tend to care about is who gives the easy A. For that, I can’t really say, but I would presume they are similar to most undergraduate technical courses - around 20-25% A’s.</p>
<p>o so zettl allows cheat sheets huh…
do his exams pull questions directly fro HW/lab?
im leaning towards zettl</p>
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Oh, yes, this is at least half the work. It is not simple but it is not impossible either - the key is not to memorize examples, but rather to memorize techniques that are put together to solve those examples. I am not a physics person so for me 7A was hard and I had to go to all the discussions and labs and carefully do (and later think about) practice midterms to get by. I imagine that 8B is not going to be more difficult. The key in 7B is to understand how the electric/magnetic fields are working and be able to write the full equations with integrals, and then know when you can replace functions with constants, get rid of dot products (always, in 7B), etc. I thought thermo was hard, though.</p>
<p>I am not trying to make Zettl sound easy, but rather I’d like to say that he provides fair exams that test your knowledge and analysis skills. As with most classes it is very difficult to understand the material right after a lecture, but if you go to discussion, do all the homework, and get lots of sleep for an active brain during the exams, then Zettl’s tests are a fair evaluation of your skills.</p>
<p>anyone else? so far looks like Zettl is the winner</p>
<p>I’m taking 7A with Zettl right now…I don’t know who is easier, exactly, but I can say that Zettl is a very good professor and keeps lectures interesting, and he’s actually very funny. I would definitely recommend him. That being said, his exams are tough, but you’re gonna be graded on a curve either way, right? So whether the test is hard or easy, I think you’re probably going to be at about the same place gradewise.</p>
<p>Anyways, equiether (above) said it pretty well: the problems are very intricate and usually involve creative application of multiple techniques to solve, so ingenuity and reasoning are helpful on his exams.</p>
<p>looks like zettl’s seciton is full
my telebears is tomororw!!!</p>
<p>is shapiro okay? i mean, does she allow cheat sheets on her midterms like zettl? on pick-a-prof it shows 29% As for her?</p>
<p>please help soon</p>
<p>well if you need the class and zettl is full, then you kind of don’t have a choice. just keep waiting to see if people drop zettl. shapiro’s section only has 12 spots left anyway.</p>
<p>does shapiro allow cheat sheets on her midterms?</p>
<p>Yes, she does.</p>
<p>for midterms and final?
how many pages are allowed?</p>
<p>If I remember correctly, then it’s 1 page per midterm, not 1 sheet (2 pages). On the final, you get all the cheat sheets you had before plus one extra page.</p>
<p>You won’t need all the pages.</p>
<p>thanks man…
would appreciate it if others could provide some reviews for shapiro</p>
<p>you know whats ironic? i spent so long researching both profs and asking around</p>
<p>i didnt get into either class…both filled up</p>
<p>Good job. Prioritize better next time.</p>