<p>Are these classes weeder classes at Michigan? I'm considering taking physics again in college even if I get a 5 on the AP because I don't feel that I conceptually understand all of the material. </p>
<p>Are these two classes really difficult and do you recommend me taking them again even if I've taken the AP already? </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>If you have taken AP Physics it should be all review + a bit of a deeper concept. I took Physics AP and retook it and got an A+</p>
<p>Thanks dude. Do you think retaking physics helped you better understand the subject? Do you think you were better prepared for your engineering classes?</p>
<p>I will say that it prepared me better for engineering because of its focus on application of concepts. I didn’t “understand” the subject in any different way. However, other classes may be better substitutes if you want to prepare for engineering courses which depends on your specific engineering major. Be careful though, these classes may be difficult and may result in a lower grade. So you just need to weigh the pros and cons and think of what may be better for you. A good grade + application skills vs. other classes that may not be so easy but may otherwise help you in the long run depending on your major.</p>
<p>Physics isn’t difficult here (I’m referring to the introductory courses, of course), which I will explain in the next paragraph.</p>
<p>Taking physics here will give you a MUCH better understanding of the subject. Whereas math is taught by GSI’s, the discussion sections of physics are taught by actual professors, many of whom have actually taught the course. I took physics 10th grade in high school and did not understand a THING. I came to the University of Michigan and, suddenly, it all just made sense.</p>
<p>There is a Physics Help Room and Randall if you ever need any help.</p>
<p>Since you are referring to 140/240… this means you are currently talking about Physics C.
If you somehow pull off a 5 on that exam… I wouldn’t bother taking it again. I’ve taking the AP C test and trust me if you can get a 5 on it, then you know what is going on and you would obviously understand the concepts and know how to apply them.</p>
<p>Well if I did decide to place out of the intro physics, I wouldn’t take another class in it’s place. So far I’m planning on taking 4 classes during each of the two semesters (considering I place out of physics). So would you suggest taking it again just as a gpa boost?</p>
<p>Ps. Don’t plan on starting any engineering courses until sophomore year (other than 100 and 101)</p>
<p>I have to disagree with the advice that you should retake the class. I took AP Physics C in high school and got a 5 on Mechanics and a 4 on E & M, meaning that I had to take 240/241 at UM. The lab (241) was very easy but I found 240 quite difficult. The tests are multiple choice and very conceptual, making them difficult for numbers-oriented people like myself. I ended up earning the first B of my life in 240 and I was very relieved that I did not get a lower grade. Many people at UM take 140/240 at community college because it has a reputation of being very difficult. I don’t feel that I gained a lot of additional understanding of physics concepts and therefore I would recommend that you take the AP credit if you can get it.</p>
<p>Hmm… mello is making me rethink everything. After looking around, I might take Honors Physics 160 and 260. Would that be a good idea?</p>
<p>240 is notoriously difficult though. I took Physics C, didnt get credit and was dissapointed that I had to retake 140 here. But in the end I got got a good grade. From my experience, 140 was a lot tougher than my high school physics course. Yeah I got a good grade, but I studied for the exams. Theres more topics covered in 140 too and it didnt help me “understand” physics better either. If you’re retaking it for grade boosts, dont waste your time. Take something thats actually easy, not this</p>
<p>I took 140 at U-M, did a lot of work and got an A-. For 240, I was wise enough to take it over the summer at Oakland University in Rochester, MI. There were probably 30 other Michigan students out of the 60 in the class. If you can take it elsewhere, do it.</p>
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<p>Yes! You’ll probably learn a little bit more that way, the class will be paced better as well since you’ll already know a great deal of the material in 140/240. Most importantly, the grading is much more lenient.</p>
<p>this makes me really nervous… my school doesn’t even offer AP physics and the physics we offer confuses me enough… it’s not even calculus based.</p>
<p>^Well, then you know what you should take…</p>
<p>You won’t be the only one in that situation, don’t worry about it.</p>
<p>So how do non-LSA Honors students who want to take an honors class sign up for one? Do you have to do something special (such as gettting professor consent)or should I just talk to my adviser during orientation?</p>
<p>you don’t have to be honors to take honors classes.
but there will be seats reserved for honors kids.</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. Do you know what percentage of the seats are reserved for the honors kids?</p>
<p>i just checked for physics 160/260… none of the seats are reserved, which means the quota was already met (so the restriction was removed).</p>
<p>Cool thanks a lot. I’m guessing you checked with Wolverine Access, i’ll take a lot at it too. Hopefully there’ll still be a spot open when I go for orientation in August (it sucks that I have to go so late in the year).</p>