Pitt vs Drexel

<p>Those are my options, help me decide. :/
I have visited both schools.
My major is biological sciences, I want to work with animals for a career, probably in a zoo. I'm sure of that, I've wanted it my whole life. I live in Pennsylvania. </p>

<p>Drexel Pros:
1. Drexel is in Philly. I love Philly. I support all Philly sports teams and everything Philly.
2. I got into the pennoni honors college, which means I can get honors housing, priority registrations, and honors classes.
3. Drexel has co-ops which would be extremely useful to me, because I need experience working with zoo animals to get a zoo job. The co-ops are better than an internship because it's like I'm employed at the company. And the Philadelphia zoo is only 10 minutes away. Also, I'm in the 5 year/3 co-op program.
4. Drexel is private.</p>

<p>Drexel Cons:
1. It's expensive. I got an 11.5k scholarship. Drexel's COA is 47k. There was a mistake on my FAFSA, so they're redoing it. I'm also appealing my scholarship due to an increase in my GPA. If it works out right... Drexel should be affordable for my family, but I'd have to take some loans, and I wouldn't have as much money to spend on other things.
2. It's a 5 year program, but that's not too much of a concern for me.
3. It's ranked slightly lower on US news than Pitt. 89 vs 64.</p>

<p>Pittsburgh Pros:
1. It's urban
2. Pretty campus
3. Better ranking
4. Much more affordable. I live in PA so I'd get instate tuition. </p>

<p>Pittsburgh Cons:
1. It's in Pittsburgh. I grew up hating pittsburgh.
2. I feel like everything that I like about Pittsburgh, Drexel has it better. Pittsburgh has a zoo - but the Philly zoo is better (I've been to both). Pittsburgh is urban.. but Philly is better imo. I'm afraid that if i went to Pitt, I would hate being there.
3. I'm already behind on the housing options, I probably wouldn't get the dorm I wanted. </p>

<p>I don't know what to do.</p>

<p>Wait until you know if Drexel is affordable or not. Then you will know if it is even an option for you. Right now it looks like it isn’t.</p>

<p>If you to find that you will need to attend Pitt, and you don’t get the housing you want initially, get yourself on whatever kind of wait-list they have for the housing that you do want.</p>

<p>Even though Pitt doesn’t officially have co-ops set up, nothing is stopping you from designing and setting up one of your own. If you start planning now, you could take a semester or two off and complete extended internships somewhere. In fact, if you set them up on your own, you would get to choose where you want to try doing them.</p>

<p>It is not an option at the moment.
But the mistake on my FAFSA was pretty big, it changed my EFC by about 4,000…
So I should be getting more fin. aid.
My GPA changed from below a 3.5 to above a 3.5 so that should be some kind of cutoff for a scholarship, so I’m hoping for a little more there. </p>

<p>Hopefully enough to make it possible.</p>

<p>I didn’t get any scholarship at all from pitt.</p>

<p>Drexel being a private school is meaningless. In reality, Pitt is almost private (only ~9% of its budget comes from the state), and technically, it is private because it is independently governed by its private board of trustees. It was fully private until 1966. It is actually a hybrid called “state-related”. In any case, it is meaningless because Pitt is by far better known. And yeah, Pitt is ranked better in US News, but it ranked way ahead of Drexel in almost any other ranking, especially in ones like the Center for Measuring University Performance or any international ranking like Times Higher Education. In any case, US News rankings easily swing 10 spots in a year (Pitt was 56th in 2010), and they constantly are changing its methodology, so it isn’t exactly stable except at the very top. Point is, don’t let (at least a single ranking in one year) make the decision for you. At least look at multiple methodologies, but don’t put too much stock in any of them.</p>

<p>As far as being a Philly sports fans, there are tons of kids from Philly at Pitt. Only 16% of the entire freshman class last year was from Allegheny County. There is probably just as many from Philadelphia (at least counting the surrounding counties). You won’t have any trouble finding camaraderie cheering for the Flyers or Eagles, or especially the Phillies. The amount of Steeler stuff will be obnoxious in the city though. As long as you don’t have a problem cheering for the Pitt football and basketball teams, you should be ok. Pittsburgh isn’t as large as Philly, no, but Oakland is the third highest urban density in the state after downtown Philly and Pittsburgh, and most of that population is college students. Anyway, here’s [a</a> website for you about students living in Pittsburgh](<a href=“http://www.coolpgh.pitt.edu/]a”>http://www.coolpgh.pitt.edu/), it is meant for grad students, but it may be useful as an overview of the city outside of Oakland.</p>

<p>As far as the honors college, you can get into, and take part of Pitt’s honors college even if you aren’t admitted as a incoming freshman. You just have to wait a semester and get permission. It is open membership.</p>

<p>Regarding the zoos, IMO, neither are world class (compared to something like San Diego). Philly’s is tiny (a consequence of its age and having no where to expand). I haven’t been to Pittsburgh since before they built the aquarium there so it has been awhile, but I remember it being larger than Philly’s, but I could be misremembering. Philly had to get rid of its elephant when I lived in Philly and they sent it to Pittsburgh, which may actually be a better zoo from a zoological point of view. I’m not sure. Anyway, the downside of Pittsburgh’s is that it is farther away from Oakland than Philly’s is from University City, although Philly’s Zoo is separated from Drexel by a pretty bad part of the city, but you could theoretically bike there. The upside of Pitt is that the Carnegie Museum of Natural History is right across the street from the Cathedral of Learning, not that that is the same as a zoo, but it could aid in studying animals. You should really consider contacting the Pittsburgh Zoo and asking them what kind of programs they have for students as far as co-ops or internships…they may help shed some light on it, it certainly won’t hurt. Heck, see if they’ll set up an interview. Hit the ground running. It never hurts to be proactive even if you eventually turn it down.</p>

<p>Bottom line though, if you are going to hate your time in Pittsburgh, well then, maybe you shouldn’t go to Pitt. Think about why you would dislike it. Is it just because you hate the Steelers or because you won’t be able to get a good Philly Cheesesteak (the closest thing you’ll get is Uncle Sam’s on Pitt’s campus)? I’m a big advocate of going somewhere you’ll enjoy, and if you really think there are serious roadblocks to enjoying your time in Pittsburgh, you may have your answer. If it is of any consolation, Princeton Review ranked Pitt #8 for Happiest Students and #11 for Best Quality of Life this past year, so something must be good about being there.</p>

<p>Thank you a lot for that post.
I really want to like Pittsburgh. It’s much more reasonably financially, and I know it’s a great education and a great school. I would despise seeing Penguins fans and crosby jerseys everywhere. But I might just have to put up with it. </p>

<p>I will email the Pittsburgh zoo to ask about that now.
I just have no idea how I would get to the zoo. I dont have a car…</p>

<p>I would not pay a big premium for Drexel. I don’t think it has more to offer than Pitt. Pittsburgh is a great place to be a student.</p>

<p>I’m going to pitt.
Thanks.</p>

<p>Another nice thing about Pitt for internships is that the Pitt schedule is such that you have May through August off in the summer. That would give you plenty of time to do summer work, and you will get out about three weeks (and be available to work) before most other college students. </p>

<p>On the Pitt campus, you will see mostly Pitt shirts–not the professional team shirts. If you go to the mall or into downtown Pittsburgh you will see the pro team shirts, but not right around campus.</p>

<p>As far as getting out to the zoo…I do not know the bus routes, but city bus fare is free with a Pitt ID.</p>

<p>Oh, housing is not first come, first serve, so you do not need to worry about not getting what you want since you are late. If you don’t get what you want it’s just because.</p>

<p>Thanks!
I’m excited now. :D</p>