<p>Has anyone been caught for plagiarism before, and what were the punishments?</p>
<p>uh.....how about try not plagiarizing and not having to worry about it.</p>
<p>or better yet try it, and tell us first hand what happens. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughful, enlightened response VTEC! You added immense value to this thread with your intuitive, common sense reply!</p>
<p>I knew someone who got caught at another school and got kicked out. Had a real hard time getting into other schools cuz it was on his perm record.</p>
<p>The consequences for plagiarism are mostly the same for any school -- expulsion. It's pretty easy to get caught doing it these days, too (google ftw)</p>
<p>i knew a girl who apparently had a friend (read: this is not a super reliable story) who was going to be put before her school's honor council for plagiarizing a paper. this was not deliberate, and involved incorrect or incomplete citation of sources. what the girl did was tell the school that she accidentally printed and turned in the WRONG copy of her paper, and the one with all the correct citations was saved in a different file. she stayed up all night fixing her paper, turned it in the next day, and the whole thing blew over. </p>
<p>on another note, a girl at my boarding school got kicked out for plagiarism. it happened really fast, too. one day she was just gone and eventually people found out what happened.</p>
<p>i believe its "plagarism"?</p>
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Thanks for the thoughful, enlightened response VTEC! You added immense value to this thread with your intuitive, common sense reply!
no problem, anytime! you can always depend on me for those no 5h!+ answers that all you little fu[ktards dont have the common sense to muster up on your own.</p>
<p>i mean really, what did the OP hope the reply would be? UCLA gives you a harsh finger wag while looking you in the eye to tell you you've been a bad boy and that santa wont bring you any presents this year? seriously. -__-'</p>
<p>Yeah, the answer is pretty much...general common sense.</p>
<p>i agree vtec. how dimwitted do you seriously have to be to ask such a common sense question?</p>
<p>Did you get that whole movie presentation about plagiarism during orientation? Or did you sleep through it like 70% of the other students.</p>
<p>dontcha, it is "plagiarism"</p>
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dontcha, it is "plagiarism"
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<p>ahahahhahahaha</p>
<p>edit: sorry couldn't help keeping my laughter to myself and this thread is just funny in general.</p>
<p>how embaaarrrraasssssinnnng</p>
<p>that's a retarded spelling, tho</p>
<p>I watched that video. It was funny :).</p>
<p>Lol @ the USC rejection letter.</p>
<p>On the other hand,</p>
<p>My physics lab partner copied and pasted 2 pages of my lab report, the TA knew it and all he did was make her rewrite it.</p>
<p>I don't think the plagiarism and cheating policy is very tough on students at UCLA. If it was recent years, then more than half of the math, science, and engineering students would be kicked out of the school for cheating in their lower-division courses (copying from solutions manual). Isn't it obvious that some sort of cheating is going on when the homework average is 100% and the test average sometimes 50%?</p>
<p>The most they do is give a warning.</p>
<p>Another reason not to have graded homework. At the same time, though, while you can reproduce the exact same method and exact same calculations theoretically even without looking at the solutions manual (heck, isn't that what you'd have to do to get the right answer anyways?), to say that 2 people could hypothetically have the same essay is, well, a little bit more unlikely.</p>
<p>Copying homework from the back of the solutions manual should not be considered cheating/plagiarism. Homework is there so that you can learn the material, and some people learn the material by copying the solutions manual. It is not a very effective method of learning, but it is learning nonetheless.</p>
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Copying homework from the back of the solutions manual should not be considered cheating/plagiarism.
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<p>This isn't what I am referring to. Obviously, everything included in the original textbook is fine. The student solutions manual is fine too - it is meant to be a source to help students if they get stuck on a problem or serve as a last resort model in problem solving. </p>
<p>What the discussion is that students can easily get access to the complete solutions manual. You probably know of this, and all readers probably do by now. Do you know why books publish new editions so quickly? You may not know this, but half the reason is because students have these solutions manuals and circulate them online (eBay, amazon, direct transfer of files). This was information discussed by professors/authors in their forums and meetings. It is not solely for the reason of the publisher to monopolize his/her own textbook market and make money.</p>
<p>Textbook publishers figure that their best temporary solution is to create new problem sets to prevent students from copying. However, students always have a way to procure the files and distribute them. You can ask flopsy if he ever had any; he'll probably post a comtempt post. </p>
<p>His issue has been magnified within the recent years. Professors have been most upset of this issue. How can homework be worth any part of the final grade (~10-30%) if students can score perfect on them? How can this accurate gauge understanding of the material?</p>
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This is a tough topic to address. Yes, you can "learn" by copying the solutions manual. I'm not sure if this recursive form of learning is very effective; I agree with you. You lose the problem solving aspect of homework, a learning process that homework is intended to fortify. It becomes somewhat of a memorization learning process if you do so.</p>
<p>If really having a complete solutions manual is beneficial towards undergraduate learning, then why doesn't UCLA include it in the textbook package? The textbook store does want to make a profit, right?</p>
<p>By this, you can see what I am getting at. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>LOL half the reason for updating isnt because students got a hold of solution manuals. what a joke. if you looked at new textbook editions, most contain the exact same problems with maybe, maybe one new problem every other chapter. most profs dont count hw in the final grade because it should be something ppl do to understand the material and may have a correlation with how they do on the exams.. ppl should be self-motivated at this point and not have to be told to do hw and rewarded with gimme points. if they felt hw was integral to the class because of the nature of the class, they would design their own problem sets that more closely matches what they want students to get out of the lessons and not rely on generic questions from a textbook
they publish new editions a quarter of the time to keep up to date, a sliver of the time because of what you mentioned, if at all, and the majority of the time for $. dont kid yourself</p>