<p>My D seriously considers Plan II in her application. Can any former Plan II persons share their experience at school and/or after school ? It could be a good guide for potential applicants.</p>
<p>My son is a current Plan II student (5th year senior). He has enjoyed the classes --mostly smaller, seminar type classes. He has part-time job he got in part because the employer was looking for a Plan II/ Computer Science major. At one of his earlier part-time jobs with a CS company, he was told Plan II was a plus, because “they knew the Plan II students could write.” One of the full time employees my son worked with was a Plan II graduate. After his first year, he was offered an on campus job from one of the Plan II profs which involved programing for a history/ mapping type project. Finally, being a Plan II applicant made my son eligible for some scholarships that he would not otherwise have received.</p>
<p>I just attended Plan II information session. The classroom, building and environment look great, competitive to Ivies. I also like the information seesion format. (Plan II director presented it and kids were actually attended 1 hr class, while parents were continuing talk with the director.) It seems like great program for my D.</p>
<p>Plan II has been an amazing experience for my daughter. She is a Junior and has loved every minute. Recently she interviewed for a internship and the guy asked her what her major was and she said Plan II, he knew what that was but another interviewer in the room didn’t. The interviewer that did know, just turned to the guy and said “that means she is smarter than both of us, and I mean like right now, not when she is our age.” They all laughed but Plan II people get a great deal of respect from companies, especially in Texas.</p>
<p>I agree with the others. And it has been around FOREVER, at least since when I was in school in the early 80s. Even then, when I met a Plan II student, I knew he or she was wicked smart!</p>
<p>My D completed Plan II application as well as other Honors program. Hope she likes it, eventually.</p>
<p>Plan II alum and just want to say what a fantastic program it was for me. Earlier poster was correct that Plan II students learn to write. It really gives you a much more well-rounded education. Math and Science types get more exposure to literature, and vice versa. My kids would be OOS applicants, but I hope they will consider Plan II, and we would do what we could to try to pay for it, because my husband and I (another Plan II alum) really loved the program.</p>
<p>It’s good to know there are happy plan II family. What were your actual majors when both of you graduated from UT Austin ?
BTW, my D is currently waiting for plan II admission along with Natural Science honor. (She is in auto-admit status.)</p>
<p>Dad2013—Plan II majors, major in Plan II. It is not just an Honors Program, but it is a degree in itself. Almost half of PII majors go on to double major but there are a great deal who do only Plan II. Also it is not uncommon for Plan II students to date, marry, have kids and send their children through the program. The program looks for kids that have “it”, “that Plan II ness about them”. It goes without saying that if two Plan IIers marry each other and have offspring, there is a better than average chance that their children have “it” too.</p>
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<p>Umm, wow. Not sure what to think of the author’s post, utche11. My son was in the author’s class, although my son is currently finishing up a CS degree (in addition to his Plan II degree). As I’ve said, I’m a big fan of Plan II. It’s been a great addition to my son’s CS degree.
As an interesting side note, collegeshopping, during Plan II parent’s weekend, I found myself seated next to some of my law school classmates. Two of my son’s Plan II classmates were children of guys in my law school class, including the author of the article posted by utche11. Given the small size of the Plan II classes, I think this is remarkable.</p>
<p>btw-- my son is working on his thesis now. He is not devoting merely a week to it, as did the author in the article posted by utche11. My son has worked on his thesis for two semesters and I believe it will be an impressive paper when he is finished with it.</p>
<p>Miss Kutner (and I use the term “miss” lightly) is nothing more than an entitled spoiled brat who scammed her way through college. There will always be those people who game the system. The majority of Plan II kids are hard working, dedicated and intellectual young adults who put into their college education what they expect to get out of it. Miss Kutner put NOTHING into her education and surprise, surprise, is getting NOTHING out of it except her student loan bill, which frankly IMO should be doubled just for the principled fact that she took money from another student who might have actually wanted to learn. I would say I hope she stays unemployed as I shudder to think of the poor unfortunately soul who would have her as an employee, but honestly I hope she gets a job so the tax payers of American don’t have to the pay the way of a self serving young women who is so clueless, that she probably doesn’t know she is clueless. This blog of hers rubs me wrong on so many different levels…</p>
<p>I am so sorry you don’t appreciate Miss Kutner’s sense of humor, but let me set a few things straight before you spread lies on the internet. Number 1, Jenny Kutner paid full tuition for her first class education. Number 2, Jenny Kutner won an award for her thesis - she was actually the first recipient of this award because her thesis was so creative they wanted to honor it appropriately. Number 3 - Jenny Kutner’s first publication in Texas Monthly went viral last week and was suggested by The New Yorker, Jezebel, Slate, Longform, Longreads and a few others as the best read of the week. So, I suggest you get a life and a sense of humor because Jenny is doing fantastic. Thank you Plan II - she had a fabulous experience and we are so proud of her.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and one more thing - this “blog”,which is meant to be humorous - obviously you don’t understand what that means, was voted one of the top posts on Medium.com. Jenny has “it” but lucky for her she also gets “it”. I wish your daughter the best.</p>
<p>Did I mention she also double majored and graduated with honors?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and she was a member of the Orange Jackets - UT’s oldest female honorary organization which recognizes women of excellence for their scholarship, leadership, and service, she was the President of Texas Feminists, a KIPP mentor and I can go on and on… Yeah - she really “gamed the system”.</p>
<p>I am not sure where this thread is going with the above posts, but I would appreciate to hear more about Plan II. One of our neighbors had a niece who went through the program and had good things to say about it. But she added that it was not well known outside of Texas so this impacted her out of state job prospects. Employers just didn’t get the rigor of Plan II. It’s like they were saying “Plan II, what the heck is that?” It’s a shame really I think. Know another kid accepted to Brown but chose Plan II and kind of the same thing. I’m wondering if changing it into something more decipherable might be helpful. Unlikely as I’ve been told it’s one of the oldest liberal arts honors programs in a public university.</p>
<p>Plan II is a fantastic education. As one of the professors stated to the recent graduating class, “when people ask you what you Plan II to after you graduate, you tell them you Plan II to be their boss”. It teaches them to think and write. Does that get them a job in another state after college - maybe not so easily. About 1/3 of the class goes directly to graduate school (at very prestigious national universities), 1/3 does Teach for America and unless the other 1/3 double majored in engineering or accounting, getting a job is difficult. That being said, getting a job today out of school with a liberal arts major is difficult. The Liberal Arts Placement at UT is disappointing. But, these kids are extremely smart, funny, and usually good at everything, so I am certain that one day they will be someone’s boss.</p>
<p>I do believe that Plan II should be proud of her and they will. She is a professional writer, challenger, and royal to where her education came from. She brings Plan II to the level of national recognition, especially in New York )=( Her dream is more than Plan II in Texas. I think she is nothing but a great asset of Plan II.</p>
<p>pkutner, are you saying that Plan II job placement office at UT is disappointing? I remember when my S was invited to UT Honor’s Colloquium and we attended a Plan II session. The people giving the session told the parents that Plan II graduates do well in job placement. They mentioned that certain firms/companies (again, mostly in Texas) know that their graduates write well and learn the ropes quickly. BTW, my S was not interested in liberal arts (although that’s his forte and is pursuing another major somewhere else). I’m thinking more about my high school D.</p>