<p>I am hoping that a few of you who seem knowledgeable in the admissions game are willing to lend advice. The scores are in :CR730, M660, W790. DD is in the top 10/265 currently with gpa >4.0 and lots of great ecs. Math is definitely a problem and is not likely to get much better- DD will try the test again though. She is struggling in her honors pre calc but does outstanding in every other area. Will those sat scores keep her from getting a look a Georgetown?? I hear they will not consider the writing portion. Please let me know what you think. All ideas appreciated.</p>
<p>bump- carolyn, mini, zagat---anyone?</p>
<p>She has nothing to lose by applying. She can apply there EA, which would not obligate her to attend if she is accepted.</p>
<p>Georgetown is, however, a hot school with lots of other outstanding students who want to go there. The students whom I know who have gotten in recently have been students who also were accepted to places like Williams and Stanford. Thus, make sure that she has a safety that she loves. :)</p>
<p>Thanks- currently we are assembling a list of those.</p>
<p>Sorry. I really don't know the first thing about Georgetown, other than it is in DC, Catholic, with a generally well-heeled student body with a high percentage from private schools, has terrific graduate programs for the making of spies and diplomats, and Patrick Ewing went there, which is what really put it on the map back in the dark ages.</p>
<p>It would seem her scores are into the mix, and it will be a matter of what else she brings to the table. (even taking out the writing, aren't her scores already above the median of accepted students?)</p>
<p>Check out the learning communities at University of Maryland. They allow students to have a small college experience in a large university. Maryland also has many of the advantages of GT, including being close to D.C. and having professors with international and national experience in the real world.</p>
<p>We are planning a trip to Md. this summer to look at UofM. My only concern with U of M is safety. We have read about the crime rate on campus (or very near) and it raised a red flag. We will check it out ourselves soon.</p>
<p>momnipotent,
if she works on the test over the summer and gets to the point where she can reliably score in the low-mid 700's in math, it might be worth the retake. Her CR score might also go up. My son and SAT I math did not get along - however, he scored a 750 on the math IIC (with a little prep) - it required more knowledge but was less sneaky. GT wants 3 SAT II's anyway, so this might kill two birds with one stone. However - she should not take the math IIC cold - take the practice on in Real SAT ii's 4-6 before the real deal would a) let her know if she should take it at all, and b) give her time to review areas that need it. </p>
<p>I agree that GT was pretty hot this admissions cycle, and that a solid slate of safeties/matches is in order.</p>
<p>My son is a current Georgetown student. He had a 1410 on the old SAT (710/700), about a 3.8 UW/4+W, and got in EA. While I have heard they will not look at the writing on the new SAT, they have always considered SAT IIs so I would think they would still look at writing in that regard. I went through panic when my son was applying because Georgetown was far and away his first choice, and it is SO hard to judge who will get in and who won't. Is she applying to the College? SFS generally requires very strong ECs in political and/or foreign languages. The best advice I can give you is to go to your high school and see how kids have done in recent years. My son went to a Jesuit high school that had a pretty good track record at Georgetown and we knew he was in the ball park. Georgetown also makes it very hard to show "interest" since their interviews are with alum and it is unclear how much these count in the whole admissions process. We did send my son down in the fall of his senior year to meet with the department chair of his intended major. He sat in on a class, and did ask the professor to write a letter on his behalf to admissions - I don't know if this helped, but it doesn't appear to have hurt.</p>
<p>First, applying EA to Georgetown does not give much of an advantage. In fact, their acceptance rate for EA is often a few percentage points LOWER than their RD acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Second, her scores are within range for Georgetown. True, her math scores are at the low end of their median but her CR scores are ABOVE the 75th percentile. So, the math scores should not keep her from getting in, unless she is planning on majoring in math or a science where math is important.</p>
<p>Other than that, I can't say what her chances are without more detailed information about her curriculum, her ec's, etc. I consider Georgetown to fall into the "lottery" category: that is, anyone's chances of getting in are pretty much the same as buying a lottery ticket, even if you have perfect SAT scores.</p>
<p>So, as Northstarmom urges, she should focus more on possible match and safety schools at this point and push Georgetown to the back burner (I'm not saying, don't apply, just don't get her hopes up!)</p>
<p>I would say that George Washinton U might be a good match/safety for her.</p>
<p>Thanks Ohio_mom and scma! Very useful! D does not like math but will have to take on a bit of studying this summer. She did not do any prep for current SAT but likely should have. The irony is- she came home from the test thinking that she had done really well in math. She presently works her butt off to make a B- in honors pre-calc. </p>
<p>She needs to do a bit more research but is leaning towards SFS. She is current Class Pres., Student Body Pres. and was elected NHS pres. for next year. She also will earn 8 varsity letters in Cross C. and Track and Field. Loves science olymiad-went to State 2 years in a row. Founded a really successful Relay for Life team (3 yrs. running) and works too many hours each summer lifeguarding. She also helps raise her brothers while I work---I am sure Gtown will ask about babysitting--right? JK Her recommendations will be very personal and outstanding. Does it look like the vitae still needs worK?</p>
<p>She fully understands that Gtown admit is a crapshoot but is willing to give it a try...in her mind, it is where she would be most happy. She is putting together a list of safe schools too.</p>
<p>By the way, I just wanted to comment on your comments about U of Maryland safety. </p>
<p>If safety is an issue, than Georgetown may not be the right choice either. Although the raw NUMBER of crime statistics at Georgetown may be smaller than at U of Maryland, remember that Georgetown is much smaller in terms of number of total students (grad plus undergrad) as UMD.</p>
<p>Therefore, if you look at the ratio of crime to number of students, instead of raw numbers, you may find that the chances of being involved in a crime are about the same, maybe even a little less, at UMD than they are at Georgetown. </p>
<p>So, please don't falsely assume that just because the raw numbers are smaller at Georgetown that it is "safer." It's like looking at a town of 5,000 people with 125 crimes a year and saying it is safer than a city of 35,000 people with 150 crimes a year, when in actuality, your chances of being the victim of a crime are statistically greater in the small town. </p>
<p>(Please no flames telling me how safe Georgetown is --- I'm not saying that it isn't, just pointing out that crime statistics need to be put in the context of student body size). </p>
<p>Here's a link to Georgetown's crime stats: <a href="http://ope.ed.gov/Security/instDetail.asp?UNITID=131496&origin=cool%5B/url%5D">http://ope.ed.gov/Security/instDetail.asp?UNITID=131496&origin=cool</a></p>
<p>And U of Maryland:
<a href="http://ope.ed.gov/Security/instDetail.asp?UNITID=163286&origin=cool%5B/url%5D">http://ope.ed.gov/Security/instDetail.asp?UNITID=163286&origin=cool</a></p>
<p>Has she looked at Macalester?</p>
<p>Carolyn- thanks for the link. We want to check out U of Md. for ourselves. We live near Ohio State University and are on campus from time to time and I would imagine the two schools to be somewhat similar in atmosphere/demographics. </p>
<p>ohio_mom- Macalester has not made it too the list. Your thoughts?</p>
<p>On her vitae I should add Buckeye Girls State (American Legion). I am certain that there are many other activities to add but I need to see her list to be sure.</p>
<p>I'm originally from Columbus (did some research at OSU as undergrad) and lived in Maryland near U of MD (my hubby did research there) and they are TOTALLY different. UMD is in College Park, not spread out like the huge metropolis OSU is.</p>
<p>That sounds good. There is nothing worse than a 40 minute walk in -20 wind chill to a cross campus class. We are looking forward to a U of Md. visit.</p>
<p>In my comparison of the two, I was thinking more along the lines of being always aware of your environment.</p>
<p>I'm not certain how much Georgetown values SAT scores. My sister had a 1500 SAT, SATIIs all above 750 and a 4.0/5.6 GPA, with the ECs to go with it.</p>
<p>Georgetown rejected her.</p>
<p>I think that the SFS is harder to get into than is the rest of GT.</p>
<p>I agree with the poster that Macalester is another college to check out for international relations. American might be a good safety school.</p>