Plme

<p>hey i'd like to get more information about the program.
my email is- <a href="mailto:bega918@hotmail.com">bega918@hotmail.com</a></p>

<p><a href="mailto:ra2000a@yahoo.com">ra2000a@yahoo.com</a></p>

<p>do u know of any programs similar also?
thanks</p>

<p>snapple05, could you please post your stat in details, including your gender/race/state? You will do some us a great favor in our decision making process.</p>

<p>Kandinskyspotato,</p>

<p>Snapple is correct, "stats" do not matter as much as personality, work ethic, interests, maturity, <em>creativity</em> (i'll discuss this later), and, of course, commitment to medicine.</p>

<p>Comment: How would you judge that?
Think of the variables. In some cases the essay was prepared with some teachers’ guidance, and in some cases with a parent’s guidance, and others with no guidance at all. We all know that in a heavily edited essay a student’s voice gets thinner and thinner. </p>

<p>My advisor is an admissions officer to the PLME, and I even had a group dinner with some of the admissions committee (they know EVERYTHING about all of us!). I learned a great deal about the selection process from my advisors (it's a very humbling process, might I add), so I will reveal pieces of the process with you.</p>

<p>Comment: It was nice of you to take time and share it with us.</p>

<p>In the ED round, about 450 kids apply to the PLME, and they cap their admits at 20. Several of the ED admits come from Rhode Island and from "PLME families" (legacies, esp. siblings who are currently in the PLME). </p>

<p>Comment: Good piece of information even though it does not sound like a fair system.</p>

<p>PLME usually admits kids with a social commitment to medicine; that is, they like students who see medicine as a life-long humanitarian effort. This is a crude generalization, but the art of medicine is favored over the science.</p>

<p>Comment: It is hard to judge that just by reading someone’s application and an essay. The art of medicine is important but the science of medicine is essential. You may not be able to serve your patient well if you lack the science of medicine.</p>

<p>However, this is not always the case. The admissions officer who admitted the kid who won the Intel competition (admitted ED last year) told me that the committee really appreciated his love for science, and thought he would make an excellent addition to the MD/PhD community. </p>

<p>Comment: good info</p>

<p>I was also admitted with many science awards, but my varied interests and talents sifted me through the sea of other intel, siemens, nms scholars.</p>

<p>Comment: Could you please elaborate on that if you don’t mind.</p>

<p>The PLME, like many colleges, has two officers who read files, and separate them into the groups -those who would be recommended for PLME, boarderline kids, and those who are unlikely for admission. The officers then select finalists for the program, and these applications are rushed to another committee comprised of brown and plme admissions officers, as well as a committee of doctors. They make the final decision on an application. </p>

<p>Comment: Good inside info</p>

<p>In my class, there are about 60 students, most of whom fall under the minority umbrella. I sometimes joke about how there are only about 5 "white" kids in the program. PLME definitely recruits minority students and students with special talents.</p>

<p>Comment: What kind of special talents? Someone who is a great opera singer or already written an original musical score? Or could it be some kid that breezes through a math problem much faster than his teacher could? Or do you mean someone who competed in USABO or USAMO?</p>

<p>They absolutely love artists, musicians, classics scholars, etc. </p>

<p>Comment: At 16, is difficult to be an artist, musician, or classics scholar. I am sure there are a few but not a whole lot</p>

<p>The typical 4.0 1600 HPME with few hooks (or, rather, quirks) is not likely (although not impossible!) to gain admission. </p>

<p>Comment: Someone with 4.0 (UW) GPA probably has the potential of a classic scholar under a good teacher’s guidance. That’s why he is going to college. But again it is hard to compare 4.0 GPA from X-school with 4.0 GPA from Y-school. So we are left with SATs and AP scores. Someone with 1600/800/800/800/800 certainly has the potential in most cases. Why should he be denied?</p>

<p>Most kids have the grades and such, but the intangibles separate the admits from the rest of the pool.
Comment: Is it not too subjective?</p>

<p>There are some amazing people here with jaw-dropping life stories.</p>

<p>Comment: Throw me one or two. </p>

<p>There are students who started NGOs in high school, published authors (poetry and prose, in addition to the standard intel paper), and new media artists - all of whom will have MDs one day. </p>

<p>Comment: You probably answered part of my questions here.</p>

<p>It's an innovative approach to medical education, and I think Brown does indeed pick students who fit with the "Brown" philosophy (i.e., academically independent, renaissance person, etc.) over students with equally impressive test scores.</p>

<p>Comment:Good test scores and authors of published poems are not mutually exclusive. At 16, no one is a Renaissance man, although he may have the potential to be one.</p>

<p>I enjoyed reading your thoughtful posting. Are you a BlueRider fan?</p>

<p>bump bump..</p>

<p>Comment: holy crap onomotopia121, that was the most anal post ever, give the dude/-ette a break, sure he/she maybe subjective so is the admission process. We all appreciate your effort to withdraw more info but you critiqued that post like it was a friggin novel.</p>

<p>onomotopia's post was not anal... I myself would like to hear the answers to those questions. And if kandinskypotato was willing to write such an in-depth post the first time, he/she might not mind doing so again.</p>

<p>1360 ever have a chance?</p>

<p>sure, i got in with only a 1380...that's just 20 more points. Brown doesn't weigh in on test scores as much...won't know 'til you try ;)</p>

<p>I love you starryeyedgirl. lol.</p>

<p>1350</p>

<p><em>gets on bended knee...</em></p>

<p>...</p>

<p>"...ooh a penny"</p>

<p>just emphasize all you're other good qualities...whether it be great grades, a great personality, your hard work...show them the person beyond the numbers and you will do much better :)</p>

<p>i THINK i did that. wait, I hope i did that. eek. I sent in my app a few weeks ago.</p>

<p>wow starreyeyedgirl....1380 and PLME...that's cool! Brown as a whole really seems less stats focussed.</p>

<p>could u please post your other things to? Did you choose to be bound to Brown regardless of ure PLMe decision?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>haha...wait no PLME...just Brown ;)</p>