<p>Is anyone here applying to the PLME? I was wondering about the type of stats that those applicants have…</p>
<p>i was deferred
1590 800 800 780, national ap scholar, president of a club, hospital volunteer, and research. It's a very tough program, and its a crap shoot for those even with the stats!</p>
<p>What type of research do you do, and what sort of awards do you have in it? My stats are very similiar to yours, and the main thing I have going for me is research.</p>
<p>So if you were accepted ED into Brown but deferred from PLME, does that mean that you have to go to Brown even if you don't get into PLME?</p>
<p>^I think there was a box thingie you checked in if you applied ED...
so depending on if you said Yes/No then you have to go or not??/
Correct me if I'm wrong...</p>
<p>I'm not sure that PLME admission is really analogous to other combined med programs; obviously they're all very difficult but I think the folks at Brown are not so interested in finding people with specific stats, but instead a personality that will match the program and the overall institutional goal in addition to strong preparation in school and ECs.</p>
<p>That said, I was accepted ED to PLME with stats that did not match mr_sanguine's, so it really is a crapshoot. Best of luck.</p>
<p>But PLME is the only one (I think) that doesn't require an interview. I'm confused as to how they gauge your personality from just a few essays, especially when they're admitting you to medical school...</p>
<p>Did you apply to any other med programs?</p>
<p>I sooooooo want to get into PLME but remember that Rice also a 9 year medical program</p>
<p>No, if I didn't get into PLME I had no intention of applying to any other combined med programs. I did have an interview, and so if you're concerned about that make sure you follow through on that portion of the process. The stats probably open the door, but you've got to get yourself across the threshold, however you choose to do so.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that there's someone on this board (dcircle, maybe?) who seems to have direct experience with the PLME admission committee, perhaps he'd be a better resource?</p>
<p>Snapple is correct, "stats" do not matter as much as personality, work ethic, interests, maturity, <em>creativity</em> (i'll discuss this later), and, of course, commitment to medicine. My advisor is an admissions officer to the PLME, and I even had a group dinner with some of the admissions committee (they know EVERYTHING about all of us!). I learned a great deal about the selection process from my advisors (it's a very humbling process, might I add), so I will reveal pieces of the process with you. In the ED round, about 450 kids apply to the PLME, and they cap their admits at 20. Several of the ED admits come from Rhode Island and from "PLME families" (legacies, esp. siblings who are currently in the PLME). PLME usually admits kids with a social commitment to medicine; that is, they like students who see medicine as a life-long humanitarian effort. This is a crude generalization, but the Art of medicine is favored over the science. However, this is not always the case. The admissions officer who admitted the kid who won the Intel competition (admitted ED last year) told me that the committee really appreciated his love for science, and thought he would make an excellent addition to the MD/PhD community. I was also admitted with many science awards, but my varied interests and talents sifted me through the sea of other intel, siemens, nms scholars. The PLME, like many colleges, has two officers who read files, and separate them into the groups -those who would be recommended for PLME, boarderline kids, and those who are unlikely for admission. The officers then select finalists for the program, and these applications are rushed to another committee comprised of brown and plme admissions officers, as well as a committee of doctors. They make the final decision on an application. In my class, there are about 60 students, most of whom fall under the minority umbrella. I sometimes joke about how there are only about 5 "white" kids in the program. PLME definitely recruits minority students and students with special talents. They absolutely love artists, musicians, classics scholars, etc. The typical 4.0 1600 HPME with few hooks (or, rather, quirks) is not likely (although not impossible!) to gain admission. Most kids have the grades and such, but the intangibles separate the admits from the rest of the pool. There are some amazing people here with jaw-dropping life stories. There are students who started NGOs in high school, published authors (poetry and prose, in addition to the standard intel paper), and new media artists - all of whom will have MDs one day. It's an innovative approach to medical education, and I think Brown does indeed pick students who fit with the "Brown" philosophy (i.e., academically independent, renaissance person, etc.) over students with equally impressive test scores. Good luck to those applying, and congrats to snapple for his/her admission to brown and medical school!</p>
<p>good post kadinskypotato, though one thing caught my attention:</p>
<p>Several of the ED admits come from Rhode Island and from "PLME families" (legacies, esp. siblings who are currently in the PLME). </p>
<p>why do they do that? </p>
<p>Also, do you feel marking "no" on the commitment to Brown could hurt one's chances? im thinking that if i were a borderline candidate, then that prolly pushed me into the defer pile</p>
<p>For RD, can a person be rejected for PLME but accepted into Brown University? I really want to go to Brown, but my test scores are low for PLME. Should I still apply to PLME; I don't want to jeopardize my chances of getting into Brown? Any advice??:)</p>
<p>just apply to PLME, if you dont make it into the med school, you're still considered for undergrad Brown. So no worries!</p>
<p>For the "why brown" essay, would the undergrad admissions committe care if I mostly wrote about why I want to attend PLME, with just a couple of sentences about Brown itself? Or should I just write all about Brown?</p>
<p>What I did for mine was that I stated I wanted to do PLME and that I would expound on that in the PLME statement. Then I wrote about Brown for the rest of the thing. I think mine is pretty good and personal.</p>
<p>i can vouch for one "Several of the ED admits come from Rhode Island and from "PLME families" (legacies, esp. siblings who are currently in the PLME). " I know a person from RI whose bro, dad, and mom all went to brown med school and got in without the jawdropping eyepopping gravitydefying credentials.</p>
<p>I don't think my credentials were "jawdropping, eyepopping, gratitydefying" or anything else like that, nor am I from RI or a family of doctors, much less a PLME family. I'm sure there are people who fall into all of those categories, but they're not the only ones gaining admission. Too many variables, I guess.</p>
<p>i was deferred ED for PLME 4 years ago with a 1580, national merit scholarship (finalist) and a summer volunteer experience delivering vaccines and other medical supplies to remote villages in rural india.</p>
<p>i got in afterwards in the RD round</p>
<p>where'd you end up going dcircle?</p>
<p>Quote: summer volunteer experience delivering vaccines and other medical supplies to remote villages in rural india.</p>
<p>How does one get the opportunity to do that?</p>
<p>i graduated from brown in may (Sc. B. in neuroscience) and just started med school there this fall.</p>
<p>when i was a junior in high school i decided that i wanted to go to india to "find myself" because i didn't know much about india (even though my parents were born there), and i thought it would be nice to "soul search" in a far away place because i had no idea what i wanted to do with my life.</p>
<p>never underestimate the power of the search engine (back then it was metacrawler because google hadn't risen to its current status). i found a non-profit started by a bunch of indian-american physicians that set up medical clinics and did outreach/education stuff in rural india. i e-mailed them and asked to tag along. then i saved up a bunch of money, and bugged my parents until they caved and let me go. the rest is history.</p>
<p>it wasn't as noble as i intended it to be because i was more of a burden to those doctors than i was helpful (i got sick a lot from the food and was generally clueless). but it was the experience that made me want to be a doctor, so in a self-indulgent kind of way i'm glad i did it. (i'm not sure if i would recommend it to others though). if you're interested, regardless, e-mail me and i can put you in touch with the people i went with</p>