<p>okay there seems to be a little bit of misunderstanding. dannylee is correct. you can transfer into political science.</p>
<p>keep in mind, if you get admitted to UCLA, you are considered a pre-political science major. in order to become a poli sci major, you have to complete the prerequisites (which KRNnoodles listed and dannylee uses as an example). on cc articulation agreements, they purposely leave out one major prereq which forces pre-political science majors from cc to take in order to determine whether or not they get accepted into political science. meaning, getting admitted as a pre-political science major is just as equivalent as getting admitted as a <em>for example</em> religious studies major with the advantage of having a few of the major prereqs done already. it's up to you to finish your major prereqs with decent grades in order to get into the actual poli sci major. </p>
<p>of course, i could be wrong but that is what i was told from a few people who went through the process. </p>
<p>i c, so pretty much anyone, with a solid gpa, could declare a change of major to poli sci even after transferring in as another major. what i'm getting at from what chibi_loopi and dannylee451 said is that, basically, one needs to complete the prereqs either at their cc or at ucla, and either way could end up majoring (or double majoring) in poli sci</p>
<p>so what's up with this whole thing about poli sci being impacted and some saying that it'll be hard to change over...also krnnoodles posted a link:</p>
<p>i think what it means is that because it is impacted (i.e. so many people go for it), you HAVE to finish the pre-reqs with good grades in order to get into it as opposed to before where you can easily just declare yourself as a poli sci major and therefore start taking the upper-division courses.</p>
<p>Alright, here's the deal. Theres seems to be alot of confusion and unnecessary complexities over this very minor issue. When I initially transferred to UCLA, I was a religious studies major. I had done none of the prereqs for philosophy, and wasn't sure if i could switch majors. I first went to my academic counselor, and asked them. They said they weren't exactly sure how the process was done and told me to ask the counselor in the philosophy department. I went there, told her I wanted to switch, they gave a list of classes I needed to take, and basically sent me off. </p>
<p>I later wanted to switch again from philosophy to political science, so i basically did the same thing. I went to the counselor in the political science building (Bunche) and talked to James (there are 2 of them, i never actually talked to Kathy). He basically gave me the list of classes I needed to take, put me in as PRE-POLITICAL SCIENCE and told me when I get all the prereqs done, I would get into the Political Science degree program; only stipulation was that I maintain a 2.0 gpa in all the prereq courses. With that said, I went to work, finished the classes and was subsequently put in. Very easy, very straightforward, at least for me it was. There may be different stories of how hard it is, but for me it happened as soon as I asked, and i'm sure it'll happen the same way for you. </p>
<p>I think the reason it was easy to switch majors was because religious studies/philosophy are in the college of letters and science (humanities), therefore reducing any messy crossovers. You should be fine. My only advice is to steer away from any humanities subjects if you don't attend to go to law school. You want a marketable major, where all the heavy competition will in the end be worth it. (If you do plan on going to law school, I strongly advise philosophy, since after you graduate you should have a pretty good handle on the lsats). Any other questions, feel free to post!</p>
<p>Dannylee451 it is NOT going to be that easy anymore because of the impacted status. </p>
<p>Now political science is becoming like Econ, which if you ever tried to switch into econ, its nothing like getting some counseling and signing a major change form type of deal.</p>
<p>If you REALLY want to major in poli scie and the major you get accepted into is not something you want to major in AT ALL than do not apply for it because there is a SMALL chance you will be stuck with it.</p>
<p>malishka, i always love feedback and the information you give, so dont get me wrong - but i think dannylee is right. </p>
<p>we don't get into ucla as a poli sci major, but as a pre-poli sci major where we have to reapply once we finish the major prereqs. with that being said, (and as dannylee points out in his case), he had to do the prereqs for polisci to get admitted into the program. his procedure is exactly what i was told to do by ucla advisers if i really wanted to be a poli sci major and dont get in but in as my alternative major (TAP). poli sci has always been impacted so i dont think they are going to make any significant changes to the process.</p>
<p>You also dont get into the ECON major. You get into Pre-Econ because of Econ 11.
But non the less unless you get accepted into econ upon admission they can tell you can not switch.</p>
<p>Malishka, maybe it's different for poli sci than it is for econ. if dannylee's gone through it + ucla poli sci advisers are telling me the same thing, then maybe it is true?</p>
<p>Malishka, trust me, it is not as difficult as you say it is. Poly Sci is a humanities major, people always switch majors while in college, it's part of the learning/exploring experience. I don't see any reason why counselors would make it so difficult especially for such a generic study.</p>
<p>"Transfer students must be admitted as Pre-Political Science majors
in order to major in Political Science. Effective Fall 2009, students may not
change their major to Pre-Political Science if they were originally admitted to
another major."</p>
<p>Dannylee- UCLA makes major changes difficult for transfers, not for freshman however. Freshman can explore all the majors they want, transfers DO get limited by what assist says.</p>
<p>As assist now states, that as of 2009 you must get accepted into PoliSci, before hand assist never said that and beforehand it was not an issue to get into PoliSci if you came in as another major. But now they are telling you it will be an issue. Same thing that the Econ department says- you must be accepted into the major and no changes are allowed post acceptance. However, even with the econ department, you can still switch if you make a good case and bother lots of people and have good grades. </p>
<p>Point being that since PoliSci now has the assist page that says they will not accept you post transfer into another department and it never had that before that everyone should be really careful with applying for another major in hopes of getting into poli sci because you can and might be denied. </p>
<p>However if you apply to another major with no intent of finding a backdoor into poli sci and then find yourself desiring to major in polisci you may be approved for the change of major pending some requirements the Poliscie department will have- usually they want your GPA and preqs to be done at the time that you applied- meaning that in most cases to challenge what is noted on assist post transfer they want you to have a strong enough app at the time of transfer that they would have taken you had you applied directly into that department.</p>
<p>It is VERY important that non of you poli sci hopefuls think it is ok to apply as Basketweaving and then just change into POLI SCI, because as of Fall 2009 it will not be a breeze, however it should not be impossible either.</p>
<p>I haven't been on here for a while... guess things changed a bit since last time I visited here...</p>
<p>Indeed the UCLA Pol. Dep. change to impact stutas and so it will be ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to transfer into the major just like you can't get into Econ. major unless you were accepted upon transfer. </p>
<p>But I just realized something, something I didn't notice before I file my graduation. Now, even you can't get into the major, but they didn't say you couldn't MINOR in the other major you are interested in.</p>
<p>I should have just MINOR in Econ. and major in Pol. Sci. when I was there, but somehow I didn't think of it that way...</p>
<p>So people, if you can't major in Pol. Sci., just MINOR in Pol. Sci. then, it really makes no defference. The employer will never ask you to show them your degree paper, they look at your resume and ask what you can do and what do you know about the subject or career feild. </p>
<p>Relax and don't stress over it too much, once you done with undergrad., your degree qualifies you as far as that you have a BA/BS degree, they give you an interview base on the name of UCLA, and then it all depends on what you can impress your interviewer by what you know and what you can do in the job field.</p>
<p>for those of you who emailed me, sorry I haven't check College Discussion for so long. Just email me directly at <a href="mailto:phenixwu@hotmail.com">phenixwu@hotmail.com</a></p>
<p>say what? i think everyone is wrong. check this out:
Transfer Students
“To be admitted as Political Science majors, transfer students with 90 or more units must complete the following introductory courses prior to admission to UCLA: one statistics course and four courses from political theory, world politics, political economy, American politics, or comparative politics”</p>
<p>^ this thread is half a year old, there’s information available to us now that wasn’t available back when the thread starter made this thread i think</p>
<p>hey andrizzle you make a good point but who’s right of all this? Is poli Sci hard to get into after you get in ucla with another major? Also, the roadwu guy seems to talk realy bad about poli sci, do you think it’s that bad of a major?</p>
<p>i don’t think he was necessarily saying political science is a bad major, i think he was saying there aren’t that many options for a post grad with a political science degree from UCLA in terms of job opportunities versus someone from USC or CAL, he says that you’re pretty much limited to a government job.</p>