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<p>First of all, obviously you’re not THAT immature, because you’re admiting to it. And also, it’s not just emotionally, they just need to grow up. They are part of the reason why many, MANY girls are insecure. It’s because they want/expect their girlfriends to look like Jessica Alba, etc. So, of course, not many people look like that, so girls change image/personalities for those stupid, immature boys.
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<p>I disagree that guys are emotionally immature. THAT is a cop out. </p>
<p>Guys are programmed to judge girls based on attractiveness (and then possibly personality depending on his “maturity”).</p>
<p>Kinda the same way girls are programmed to judge guys on their attractiveness, social value, money, confidence, etc. You know, those popular bad boys you feel the need to change your looks for rather than the nice guy that you completely overlook and would like you for the way you are. </p>
<p>The irony makes me laugh. This is coming from someone who used to be that “nice guy,” changed dramatically, and now pulls cheerleaders. You can believe it or not, I don’t care a bit.</p>
<p>Wow! Liverpool- I’m 5 and I weigh like 107- 110. As for the question is it a product if the media
my answer is : Yes.
I just read a book called the Lolita effect and it talked about how the media creates ideals of beauty which are unattainable to the average girl. The author M. Gigi talks about how many of the models on TV have their bodies’ appearance changed by computers- so what you see on TV is not how the real person looks like. So all the models people look up to are FAKERS!
Second,the media has perpetuated the sterotype of the curvaceously thin. This means a girl has curves but is still thin. THis body type rarely occurs in real life. Also, the only pretty people are supposed to be curvaceously thin, white and slender- its ridiculous. Historical research has shown that beauty comes in many different sizes. For ex: In india before Americanization girls with wide hips who were the very opposite of thin were pretty. In China, slender girl with less curves were pretty. Therefore, you are letting a bunch of old guys in an advertising booth decide who is pretty or not ! Have you ever heard anything more ridiculous?
Finally, here’s a paradigm of what the search for beauty has done to women- ( and remember advertisers don’t care about the dangers)
[The</a> Dangers of Using Skin Lightening Creams](<a href=“The world's top new source on natural health - NaturalNews.com”>The Dangers of Using Skin Lightening Creams - NaturalNews.com)
Many black people use these creams to become whiter looking because they have been duped by the media into believing that white is pretty.
These creams have been banned by the government in several countries.
I guess what I’m trying to say is a trite axiom- you are perfect just the way you are and you need to feel proud about that. Don’t try to look “pretty” b/c “pretty” is different to everyone.
I ( being african American) have just given up trying to adapt to Today’s standards. Screw it. I just need to pay attention to myself and my worries. I decide whether I approve of myself or not- I’m not allowing anyone to have control over my self esteem.
I hope you’ll join me in saying **** this to the fake robots on TV and go on doing whatever the **** you want !</p>
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I agree – it’s evolutionarily beneficial for guys to seek out healthy girls, and vice versa. But your post is kind of silly in that you’re saying, “Guys aren’t immature; they’re just programmed like that!” and then you go on to brag about “pull[ing] cheerleaders.” Hahaha. You’re my internet hero!</p>
<p>In addition, the “We’re programmed that way” defense can only go so far. If we always behaved strictly according to our primitive instincts, we would go around seeking immediate gratification with no regards to appropriate behavior. For example, we’d go into restaurants and eat food off of others’ plates rather than wait for our own.</p>
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<p>good point.</p>
<p>female 17</p>
<p>im extremely skinny! i guess the only time i care about what i look like is when im in a bikini! i feel so self-conscious, but thats mostly bc i think my boobs are too small, and dont really fill out my top out well. =/</p>
<p>i’m pretty confident when im dressed casually though, or at school (uniforms.)</p>
<p>ahh i know what you mean. i’m a female too, 16, and i do feel the media has an enormous impact on our life. sometimes i feel too consumed in trying to look good and then i realize how stupid am i to worry. for example even though my doctor tells me i’m fine in weight, in fact need to gain weight, i sometimes get paranoid and think i’m fat. just remember one thing. everyone is beautiful- and in my opinion even if you’re gorgeous in looks but have a ****** personality, i think you’re ugly.</p>
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<p>I wasn’t bragging, I included it for the effect of contrast. Apparently it’s lost on some people over the internet. </p>
<p>I realized that those cheerleaders I looked up to for whatever reason are actually *****y sluts. The more you treat 'em like crap, the more they want you. It makes me think that girls are “programmed” that way as well.</p>
<p>^ I’m fine with taking your comment at face value, but I’d be more comfortable doing so if you were to acknowledge the broadness of your generalizations, lol. Generalizations are useful and I’ve got nothing against them, as long as they’re acknowledged as such!</p>
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<p>Uhh, well I’m just thin because I play soccer alot, and my mother cooks the healthiest food in the neighbourhood. But then again, I work at KFC, and I do eat the food there (not the chicken)… well I guess I have a really high metabolism? Ugg I’m going to my doctor asap.</p>
<p>I thought it was understood that not everyone is the same, but if it makes you feel better than I acknowledge that they are broad generalizations (with a ton of truth). Lol.</p>
<p>I’d love to see people quit blaming the media for every thing. The media is just a reflection of what our culture wants. It wouldn’t be monetarily successful if “we” didn’t endorse their ideas in some manner.</p>
<p>Uhh, so much drama.</p>
<p>:rolleyes:</p>
<p>Gr, I just typed up a long response about this and then I accidentally clicked away. I’ll start again, I guess.</p>
<p>I’m 16 and I’m a girl. Even though I never wear makeup or straighten my hair, my appearance is pretty important to me, and I’m definitely self-conscious. I hate looking/feeling dirty or messy – probably more than most. Like if I find out I had a stain on my clothes or something on my face and I didn’t know it, I get kind of upset and dwell on it for a while even though I can’t do anything about it. Or if I think I look bad, I’ll be bothered by it all day.</p>
<p>I don’t really watch TV or read magazines much. Most of my pressure to look good comes from myself. I don’t really care about how celebrities look, and I never think that I need to look like them, or, really, even feel jealous of their appearances. The only people who make me feel self conscious about how I look are other girls, sometimes.</p>
<p>Also, I’m self-conscious about how, even though I’m tall and thin(ish [5’8-9 and 135-140, by day]), I’m pretty clumsy and awkward. I don’t have the best posture, either.</p>
<p>This is actually pretty amusing. I’m 17 and 5’10’’ - 11’’ (it changes on how straight i stand) and i’m pretty heavy but i have a large frame. thing is i’m very imtimidating to most guys considering my height and strength and I’ve never felt the need to change. I could stand to lose a little weight but not much to the point of having dagger like elbows.</p>
<p>I truly don’t understand the ‘I have to be thin’ mentality I don’t find it attractive on either gender, particularly women. Many of those models idolized in the media look as if theyd snap if i shook their hand and it gives me goosebumps. How can that be healthy? Although i know some people do not strive for this image on purpose and in no way do i fault them but driving yourself for this ‘ideal’ image is simply ridiculous. Growing up with a family that prides itself on simplicity we never cared about looks and neither did the people in the community i grew up in. as long as you looked presentable and your kids did well in school you had plenty to brag about.</p>
<p>I just noticed as well that all the guys i was attracted to were never liked for their looks…</p>
<p>This thread had 1 post when I opened it. I do some other stuff, click refresh and it has 33.</p>
<p>^ yeah, I’m not too associated with the media either. I don’t watch tv unless its a soccer game, and I don’t read magazines at all. I also don’t listen to the radio. I only listen to classic british rock n’ roll. I guess you could say I’m very anti-media.
Listen to No Shelter by RATM, its very anti-media (and anti-gov as well ■■■■■).</p>
<p>ANYWAYS
This may seem cheesy, but everyone is beautiful. If you’re healthy, you’re fine. It you’re clean (you know what I mean), you’re fine. That’s my opinion.</p>
<p>Male-6’3"-180 lbs</p>
<p>Do I feel pressure to look good? Yes. Do I let it control my wallet and my attitude? Heck no.</p>
<p>^same here</p>
<p>justaverage … i’m pretty much in the same boat as you. i never felt the need to wear make up or make my hair look pretty, but that could also stem from my laziness factor. </p>
<p>but yea theres definately pressure to look good. from who? im not so sure. it doesnt really govern my lifestyle though, im naturally really thin and i tried gaining weight before, it just didnt work, i dont really care anymore, for the most part.</p>