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<p>Unfortunately Yale (and any other college, for that matter) does not make its decisions based on something that may happen in the future; they can only evaluate you based on what you have already done. Even if you were diagnosed I would find it hard to believe that they would allow someone with very poor grades in. If you read the rest of the threads about admission, all the promising candidates have near-perfect grades, SAT’s over 2250, and a ton of phenomenal stuff. </p>

<p>An extra year will probably not help much either, because you can’t erase the past by doing so. I feel that it’s best to go to a lower level college and then transfer, if possible. You will have a clean record once in college and can prove yourself without the influence of high school performance. Have you thought about your career? If you will need some kind of professional school (med, grad, business, or law, for example), you should aim for those; the undergraduate institution really doesn’t matter too much at the end. Just do well in whatever college you go to, and you will catch up to the others. </p>

<p>EDIT: looks like someone already talked about the grad school thing… well, here’s a bit more detail.</p>

<p>Yalie099: what did you score on your PSATs? If you’re taking practice tests for the SATs, what are you consistently scoring? You’re banking on 2400. What’s the indication for this?</p>

<p>If you do happen to get 2400, your near 3.0 GPA will still eliminate you from consideration.</p>

<p>Soph year on I believe my Gpa is above 3.0, does that still eliminate me?</p>

<p>^There’s no case where no one has a chance. I’m not even sure if someone with a 2.0 and 600 SAT might be rejected for sure – although I would be willing to place my money on that. All my money. </p>

<p>My point is, it’s impossible to say. First of all, a 2400 on the SAT is not something anyone can get – it’s a really hard score to achieve. Secondly, if you have ADD, they have special testing conditions for that, as to even it out a little (you have to be diagnosed and show them the medical report I think).</p>

<p>I’m confused on how you think you can get a 2400.</p>

<p>I believe I have ADD, and when that is corrected, I believe I will be able to do very well on my SATs. Doing well on the SATs is the only shot I believe I have at getting into Yale.</p>

<p>Also, is it possible to apply for a transfer, and apply normally?</p>

<p>Yalie, the thing is all competitive applicants have done well on the SATs and in their high school classes. I truly feel bad for you, having a condition that may have prevented you from realizing your full potential. However, if you’re just figuring out now that you may have a learning disability, there’s no way to change what happened in the past. Get a proper diagnosis, get treated, and start over in college with the new knowledge that you can do well if you apply yourself. Have Yale as a dream for either transfer or grad school, and keep yourself focused on that dream while at whatever other good school accepts you. Good luck! :)</p>

<p>I think you should explore what Yale means to you, and work with that. I treat a lot of ADHD, and can’t figure out what you think “correcting it” will do for your SAT score, unless you we pretty close to your goal entreated. I’m going to look that up.</p>

<p>I should have said “I can’t be sure what correcting it will do for your score.”</p>

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<p>I’m not sure what you mean by “normally”; the transfer admissions process is essentially the same as fr admissions PLUS college transcripts, college LORs, adviser evaluation and reason for transferring. Y transfer admission rate is approximately 2%.</p>

<p>What I mean by applying normally is the freshman process. The reason I want to do that is because of the low rate of transfer admissions.</p>

<p>Well Yalie: you have chutzpah – no one can deny that. Go ahead and apply if you feel you must. However PLEASE read through the advice I offered in reply #7. Your guidance counselor is needed in any admissions process. you MUST speak with him/her immediately or you’ll be sunk.</p>

<p>Also remember your parents are required to fill out the FAFSA. They need to be preparing for that. Have you signed up for SATs? How about subject tests? Your window to get everything ready for a Dec 31 yale app deadline is roaring down on you.</p>

<p>So…why are you so dead set on Yale again?</p>

<p>I took the diagnostic test for ADD, and apparently, I have a high chance of having it as well. Personally, I don’t think I have it, and if I do, then it’s nice to know I accomplished what I did with it. Anyway, I would get tested, and take the extended SAT for students with disability.</p>

<p>go for it. but if your SAT score’s not impressive, then your chances will dramatically wane.</p>

<p>Yalie099, if you are not a ■■■■■, then please realize- none of us can tell you with 100% certainty that you will be rejected by Yale. But if you were my kid, I’d say your odds are low enough that it becomes hard to justify the application fee.</p>

<p>That is why I’m filling out a fee waiver. We’ll see Dec 5. If I don’t get near a 2400 I probably will not apply. But it will be close to the dec 29 deadline when I find out my score. I’ll see what the medicine does for me. I believe with the work I will be doing Yale will take an interest in me.</p>

<p>“I took the diagnostic test for ADD”</p>

<p>What is that? There is no “diagnostic test for ADD”.</p>

<p>OP, you may want to read the Yale Common Data Set … <a href=“http://www.yale.edu/oir/cds.pdf[/url]”>http://www.yale.edu/oir/cds.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Only Yale admissions can tell you if you will be admitted or not … however there is a lot of data about previous sucessful aaplicants. </p>

<p>For example
97% of 08-09 class was in the top 10% of their HS class
100% of 08-09 class was in the top 25% of their HS class</p>

<p>My additional comment … those 3% not in the top 10% include some recruited athletes, URMs, and developmental admits among others. </p>

<p>The biggest concern I have reading your posts it does not seem you are not considering any other applicants or looking at things from Yale’s perspective. I understand you believe you have the potential to attend Yale … fair enough. Yale has about a 10% acceptance rate and I’d bet the admissions folks would say that at least half the applicants were qualified applicants and it was tough to pick the admitted students … where qualified means their HS grades, test scores, ECs, and recommendaions make them solid Yale candidates. So the big question is why should Yale skip over thousands of candiates with stronger stats to pick you? There are tons of kids would could do OK at Yale … the sell you have to make to Yale is why you … what performance have you shown to compel to Yale to admit you? </p>

<p>I have a lot of empathy for your possible ADD and hopefully you find ways to improve your performance … however until you can show Yale (or other top schools) that you have improved your performance I think you’re fighting a pretty uphill battle trying to get into Yale. There are about 3000 colleges in the US … many other colleges in the US cold provide a solid education in you preferred major and with similar attributes (size, location, etc) as Yale … I’d suggest you expand your horizons beyond Yale; apply to Yale if you want to but also have other schools in mind which likely are more likely admits for you. Good luck!</p>