<p>we had elections for a school club today. the current, hardworking junior president was ousted by a sophomore who promised club members that he "wouldn't make them do anything" because "you can be lazy and still productive." </p>
<p>he won 35/44 votes, with thunderours applause</p>
<p>Whoa that's pretty cool! :] Hhehehe a sophomore kicking a junior's butt. Just playing. Is he really that popular or something? Must of been a popularity vote. Could you ask for a recount?</p>
<p>no, he's not popular at all, he's a loner</p>
<p>we're all trying to understand wth happened. he's never done anything even remotely good for the club. those few times when we force him to come along, the advisor is always yelling at him to stop talking and get working. </p>
<p>the club doesn't do recounts, but me and the rest of the officers are planning to formally vote to abolish the club and set up a similar one with a constitution that openly discriminates against the underclassmen in leadership positions so that this will never happen again.</p>
<p>First of all, you can't discriminate against the underclassmen. Sometimes underclassmen might be better than the upperclassmen. Just write a constitution that being a president, you have to work and make the club memebers do something instead of being etc etc etc. Don't discriminate what class the person is. That's really unfair, just to tell you that. But if you think your idea is right, go ahead and see what the results will be.</p>
<p>right now we have a workaholic president who devotes her life to the club. (quite pathetic in some respects, noble in others) and a vice president who does nothing. he doesnt participate or show up to functions. besides that he has ideology issues where he focuses a lot on race and thinks he knows what communism is.</p>
<p>Okl I talked to one of the vice president candidates (who didn't win) and this is what she told me. she and her friends in the club gathered together to create a block against the old president. they told people to vote for the dumbass vice president because they know he's not going to make them do anyhting. plus, the plan was that when he gets elected, they would tell him what to do, a sort of puppet government. </p>
<p>i cant believe they voted him in! in his speech he said that you can be lazy and still have a productive club. and that he wont make people do anything. on top of that he said that he has knowledge of the environment because "since [he] was a kid [he] liked the color green." (the club was for environmental science club)what a moron!</p>
<p>On another note, which club was this?</p>
<p>we're carefully weighing our options</p>
<p>i think you just have to know this kid to know he's not a good leader. sure, if we move to do what i said earlier, it would do some serious damage to the club, but it would still survive. on the other hand, we KNOW that the club will not survive if our president-elect moves ahead with his "no meetings, no dues, no work" mantra.</p>
<p>Heh, I think there should be a recount. Besides the "sponsor" of the club should decide if the person is worth it or not. --;</p>
<p>sadly, its all clean and legal... democracy shouldnt exist in highschools where primary drives are for laziness, sloth, and the easier path.</p>
<p>yeah, wow, why didn't you tell me that?</p>
<p>this is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO unfair >.<</p>
<p>it's a environmental science club</p>
<p>OMG! LMAO! Are you kidding me?! Democrazy leads to laziness, sloth, and the easier path. oO; Heh some people worked their butt off, too. Even there is a democracy. --; I think GVT is poison but anyway. MzLover3, I would go talk to the sponsor of the Club. Then present the speech to the club members on why you think it should of been the other person. :] There. Problem solved.</p>
<p>I would talk to the club, and say, okay, since a majority of you club members, have voted to do nothing, then those interested, we are starting a new club, where things will get done. You can choose to stay here and basically wallow around, or join some people who really want to get something accomplished.</p>
<p>The club is dying already, you are getting out before it crumbles and dies.</p>
<p>If no meetings, no club, so what would be the point- oh yeah, something to put on college resume and application!! DUH!!</p>
<p>It is truly a shame what has happened. It's a total misuse of our school's democratic system. As a member of the club, I find it very distrubing. What is very odd though, is that I was elected VP. I have contributed very, very much to the club, but not as much as our present president. It seems very odd that she would not be voted in when I was voted. If the majority voted for me on the basis of work ethic and contribution, why was she not voted on as well, as also standing on a platform of the same beliefs.</p>
<p>Poor you. Well, you can always set up a club where it is run by a dictatorship rather than a democracy. Instead of voting for a president, it can be passed down to. The other officers can be appointed by the president =).</p>
<p>As long as you have a capable and "good" president, it works. That's how some of our clubs are run.</p>
<p>something that happened in my school once was an election where there were three candidates. two would've done a good job, but they lost to the third, who was completely irresponsible. the reason that person won was because a bunch of people thought he wouldn't get any votes, so they voted for him thinking he'd lose but be able to keep some dignity. however, the number of pity votes ended up being a plurality because the rest of the student body was split 50/50 over the qualified two and the winner had barely over a third of the votes. so perhaps there's a similar situation there? i don't know, just a thought.</p>
<p>You bring up a very good point. It could very well be the same situation for us, indeed. I do believe there may have been personal motives involved as well. Possible one voter getting others to blindly vote for someone with little capability or dedication.</p>
<p>Well, isn't this also how democracy works? There has been many times in US History that a compromise candidate was elected to Presidency although he was not as able as the main candidates.</p>
<p>Wait who counts the tallies? :P Do not tell me one of the club members. -_-;</p>
<p>Ah, a revolution by the proletariat.</p>
<p>A part of me wants to say too bad, you have to deal with things like this, and if it's in the best interest of the club, that's how it should be run.</p>
<p>If you were to overthrow this president, almost 80% of the club would disagree. If the club wants this leader, then the club should be entitled to him/her.</p>
<p>Individual people vote for their own best interest, regardless of what you think is "good" for the club. The club might fail, but it's what the club wanted.</p>
<p>I don't think any single individual has the right to determine what is in the best interests of a club, unless he/she is elected by it.</p>
<p><em>Ahem</em> Democracy if generally the same thing. Ever heard of partisan politics? It infests Canada like the bubonic plague infested Europe back in the days. Besides, it's high school so what are you fretting about?</p>