Pre-Haas Freshman Schedule Help

<p>Hi, I had a couple questions about planning my schedule.
1. Is it wise to take UGBA 10 my first semester as a freshman or do you think it would be too intense for me?
2. Which is harder? Economics 1 or Statistics? Which Statistics class is easier: 20, 21, or 25?
3. How different is Math 16A and 16B from AP Calculus AB/BC in terms of material, difficulty, etc.?</p>

<p>This is what I'm considering as my schedule:
Freshman 1st semester
1. UGBA 10 with Robinson
2. Breadth
3. Breadth
4. Breadth</p>

<p>Freshman 2nd semester
1. Statistics 21 with Ibser or Econ 1 with Olney
2. Breadth
3. Breadth
4. Breadth</p>

<p>Sophomore 1st semester
1. Math 16A with Woodin
2. Breadth
3. Breadth
4. Breadth</p>

<p>Sophomore 2nd semester
1. Econ or Stats
2. Math 16B
3. Breadth
4. Breadth</p>

<p>I'm also planning on double majoring Business with with Anthro, Psychology, or Sociology. I'm a bit concerned about pairing up bio courses from Anthro or Psychology with these Business pre-reqs.
For math, I got A's in both AP Calculus AB and BC but I'm the type of math person who can't apply concepts. I only copy what the teacher does in examples unfortunately. I really didn't understand AP Calculus BC either. :( I got a 5 on the AB test and a 4 on the BC test.
I would also prefer to take Stats in my frosh year so that I can declare my other major faster. However, I don't know how taking Econ with Math 16B will be like.
Also, will Haas be ok with me leaving the last 2 pre-reqs for my last semester as a sophomore?
Thanks!</p>

<p>P.S. Many of the breadth classes will most likely be replaced by pre-reqs for one of the aforementioned majors.
P.P.S. What is your idea of an ideal schedule?</p>

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<p>Your choices for math as far as Haas is concerned are:</p>

<p>16A-16B
1A-1B
1B-53
1B-54</p>

<p>If you do not like math and your alternate major does not require more math, 16A-16B is the least rigorous. If you like math and/or are considering an alternate major that does require more math, consider the other sequences.</p>

<p>There is more information, including pointers to old final exams of Berkeley math courses, in the <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/1305840-freshman-math-faq.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/1305840-freshman-math-faq.html&lt;/a&gt; .</p>

<p>Statistics 20 or 21 lists a semester of calculus as a prerequisite (presumably AB, 16A, or 1A). Statistics 25, if it is even offered any more, lists a year of calculus as a prerequisite (it is for engineering majors, though the engineering major that required it seems to have replaced it with its own course).</p>

<p>Bump. Please help!</p>

<p>Do:</p>

<ol>
<li>UGBA 10 (3)</li>
<li>Math 16A (3)</li>
<li>Breadth (3-4)</li>
<li>Remaining units for freshmen seminars & decals (if you don’t want to take too many P/NP, opt for letter-grade seminars; they are easy As if you do the work, attend it weekly, etc…).</li>
</ol>

<p>That’s your ideal schedule. No reasons to take 3 breadths in first semester.</p>

<p>You may want to consider taking Statistics instead of Math 16B in your first semester. Although it may be a bit harder, I believe it is a pre-req for at least some of your double major options and therefore will help you declare those majors sooner. Also, I’d use your remaining breadth classes to fulfill any pre-reqs for those double majors too.</p>

<p>If you can memorize well then UGBA10 is not hard at all. Actually, it’s an easy A if you can.</p>

<p>Bump. Bump. Bump.</p>

<p>Be prepared to take courses in a different order from your initial plan (though in prerequisite order for subjects like math that have that) in case your first choice of courses for the next semester are full.</p>

<p>For example, make a list of about eight courses that you are willing to take in the fall, with the intent to enroll in about four (maybe five) of them. For example, you may want to consider this list of candidate courses:</p>

<p>Math
R&C if needed
Economics 1
UGBA 10
introductory courses for your alternate majors
courses for breadth categories that will not be fulfilled by your alternate majors</p>

<p>If you plan to do simultaneous degrees, you will want to make sure that every course fulfills some requirement, rather than taking too many courses that do not cover additional requirements from those you have already taken.</p>

<p>how many units do people take each semester usually? (pre-haas)
I was thinking
Math 16A
Econ 1
R1A
Chem 1A
Freshman seminar
UGBA 10</p>

<p>does this look okay?</p>

<p>^ from what i’ve read around here, I’ve heard it’s better to space out the classes: UGBA 10, Econ 1, and Math 16A (if you have problems with Math) throughout your first 2 years. </p>

<p>Also, to ucbalumnus, I’m actually an incoming regents scholar and I heard that I get priority registration for courses. Does that change things that much or is it still hard to get the classes I want?</p>

<p>As an incoming Regents’ Scholar, you are supposedly among Berkeley’s top students…</p>

<p>Personally, I can’t imagine any of the Haas prerequisite courses other than perhaps R&C being particularly more difficult than most other courses that a freshman or sophomore would take to prepare for an alternate major.</p>

<p>Re: #10</p>

<p>Six courses does seem like a higher workload than normal (normal is about four courses or 15-16 units each semester, though students who study efficiently and/or have light-workload-per-unit courses that semester often take more). What is Chemistry 1A for? If your alternate major requires it, then you also need to take Chemistry 1AL (the lab, which is more time than its 1 unit indicates). If you are just taking it for breadth, be aware that you will be in a class full of engineering majors, biology majors, and pre-meds (though chemistry and chemical engineering majors will be in Chemistry 4A).</p>

<p>when do we sign up for classes? </p>

<p>Re: #12
Yeah, I wanted to do chem for my breadth because i took AP chem this year but ughhh this is so hardd. I don’t know which classes to take :frowning: Are there classes that nonscience majors can take?</p>

<p>and thanks anneflys. i should probably reconsider them.</p>

<p>^ We sign up for classes based on when you signed up for Calso (the orientation for Berkeley that you sign up for). Look at your checklist on the same place where you saw your acceptance to Berkeley. It should be hiding somewhere around there.</p>

<p>Also, as a warning, I heard Chem 1A is a killer class. If your major isn’t Bio/Chem/Engineering, look for the really easy science classes. For instance, I’m taking Anthro 1, which is supposed to be pretty easy. There are also tons of other ones but take the courses that relate to your major.</p>

<p>for some reason, it says that anthro 1 won’t be offered. poop.
do you know of any other relatively easy classes?</p>

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<p>Typical science courses for non-science majors include:</p>

<p>Astronomy 3, 10, C10, C12
Biology 11, 11L
Computer Science 10, W10
Earth and Planetary Science lower division courses
Environmental Science 10, 10L, C12
Environmental Science, Policy, and Management lower division courses
Integrative Biology 31, 35AC, 41, C82
Letters and Science C30various, C70various
Math 10A, 10B, 16A, 16B
Molecular and Cell Biology lower division courses
Physics C10, C21
Plant and Microbial Biology lower division courses
Statistics lower division courses</p>

<p>Of course, all of your science (and engineering) major friends will think you are taking a super easy schedule if you take a science course with a course number of 10. (Note: not all of the courses fulfill the science parts of the L&S 7-course breadth.)</p>

<p>Also, there is nothing preventing a non-major from taking courses like Chemistry 4A, Physics 7A, Computer Science 61A, etc…</p>

<p>Oh, it should be offered in the spring. What I’d suggest is looking at the prereqs for your major and taking the courses that satisfy them. If your major is one of those awesome ones where science isn’t really required then I’d suggest googling easy courses at UC Berkeley and picking the ones that interest you. I’ve heard that many of the environment science ones are easy (tests are supposed to be more essay/opinion based than factual/science. Also Astro 100. Just look around and you should be able to find something.</p>