Pre-med at Michigan

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Michigan
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<p>m1817,</p>

<p>Of the three schools you mentioned, I know Berkeley's placement rate isn't great--around 60%. Even if UM/UCLA/Berkeley have largest applicants, it really means nothing other than the fact they are big schools with lots of students. </p>

<p>Alexandre,</p>

<p>I agree with what you said about how people shouldn't use med school placement as the sole criteria for choosing schools. But as far as med school palcement goes, I think it's fairly obvious that schools with grade inflation tend to do better in that area. Michigan isn't one that I'd call grade-inflated and there's no better reason to explain the mediocre rate of 65%.</p>

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<p>Getting back to HighschoolDoc's original question, check out U-M's Health Science Scholars Program.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.lsa.umich.edu/mlc/overview.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.lsa.umich.edu/mlc/overview.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>It is learning/living community of students who are interested in the Health Sciences.</p>

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<p>does anyone know if U of M still has a 7-year program? i know they had an interflex program a couple years ago...</p>

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<p>The Inteflex program ended in 2003. Type "michigan inteflex discontinued" in Google and see page 22 of the link titled "25 Years Patient Care in the Department of Family Medicine."</p>

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<p>Top Pre-Med Colleges & Med Schools Rankings </p>

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<p>FYI, this is an excerpt from a Powerpoint presentation on Medical Deprtment Recruiting by:</p>

<p>CAPT Cynthia Macri, MC, USN
Vice President, Recruitment & Diversity
Uniformed Services University</p>

<p>Top Ten Pre-Med Colleges By Number of Med School Applications
UCLA - 611
UC Berkeley - 536
U Michigan – 522
UT Austin - 391
UF Gainesville - 385
UCSD – 345
Harvard – 307
UW Madison – 305
UVA – 303
UIUC – 300
Stanford - 300</p>

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<p>Competitive Med Schools
MCAT >31.5 + GPA >3.5
Washington Univ., St. Louis, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Yale, Duke, Stanford, Mayo, NYU, U Penn, Michigan, UCSF, UCSD, UC Davis, UCLA</p>

<p>Second Tier
MCAT >30 + GPA >3.5
Cornell, U of Chicago, Pittsburgh, Utah, Baylor, UT Southwestern, Ohio State, Virginia, UC Irvine, Washington (Seattle)</p>

<p>Third Tier (Top 46/126)
MCAT 29-30 + GPA 3.4-3.6
USUHS (#40), Einstein (Yeshiva), SUNY Stony Brook, NY Medical College, Albany, SUNY Buffalo, Georgetown, Drexel, USC, St. Louis U, Emory, South Florida, Northwestern, Wake Forest, Dartmouth, U Mass Worcester, Colorado, Oregon, Maryland, Alabama, New Jersey</p>

<p>Middle Third Med Schools (43)
MCAT 27-29 + GPA >3.4
Wisconsin, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, New Jersey (RWJ), Arizona, Florida, Missouri (Columbia), UT San Antonio, UT Galveston, SUNY Brooklyn, SUNY Syracuse, Michigan State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Nevada, Penn State, Kansas, Texas Tech, TX A&M, Illinois, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, S. Carolina, N. Carolina, Case Western, Loyola, Jefferson, Tulane, Cincinnati, Med Coll Virginia, Miami, Temple, George Washington, Med Coll Georgia, South Alabama, Tufts, Mt. Sinai, Rush, Boston U, Med Coll Wisconsin, Med U S. Carolina</p>

<p>MCAT <27 + GPA <3.5
Eastern Virginia, Finch, Loma Linda, Louisville, Wayne State, Creighton, SIU (Springfield), Rochester, Med Coll Ohio, East Tennessee, Mercer, Marshall
Minnesota (Duluth), New Mexico, Vermont, LSU (Shreveport), North Dakota, West Virginia, LSU (New Orleans), South Dakota, UT Houston, Missouri (Kansas City) </p>

<p>Bottom 10 Med Schools
MCAT <24
MCAT 24: Missouri (Kansas City), Wright State, East Carolina
MCAT 21-24: Arkansas, UPR, Meharry, Howard, Morehouse
MCAT <21:Ponce, Caribe</p>

<p>Osteopathic Schools
MCAT 24-26 (Note none > 26)
Kirksville, Chicago COM, North Texas, Ohio, Oklahoma State, Western, Des Moines, NJ, Nova, Michigan State, PCOM
MCAT <24
Kansas City, New England, NYCOM, Lake Erie, West Virginia
N/A: Touro, V Tech, Pikesville, Arizona</p>

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<p>"Second Tier
Cornell, U of Chicago, Pittsburgh, Utah, Baylor, UT Southwestern, Ohio State, Virginia, UC Irvine, Washington (Seattle)"</p>

<p>I'm curious why U of Washington's School of Medicine is considered a "second tier" medical school.</p>

<p>It ranks #1 in Primary Care and #7 in Research. It boasts 5 nobel prize winners, 26 Institute of Medicine members, and 25 National Academy of Science members. The UW hospital is ranked #9 nationally.</p>

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<p>The rankings are strictly MCAT and GPA driven.</p>

<p>I still don't understand how U-M and UC-Berkeley can have top undergraduate programs in business and engineering, but are ranked below schools that don't have such programs by USNWR.</p>

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<p>med school acceptances don't really have anything to do with your UG school. It is numbers driven. go where ever u gonna end up with the highest gpa.
you won't gain any advantage going to Michigan over Michigan State/ Illinois/syracuse/penn state/etc.</p>

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<p>NYao, until you have served on a med school admissions committee, you are no position to make such broad statements. Especially since you are an undergrad in the engineering school.</p>

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<p>NYao, I cannot agree with that statement. If you look at the makeup of any top 10 Medical School or top 10 Law School, you will see that over 60% of their students completed they undergraduate educations in top 20 universities.</p>

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<p>m1817, especially what? you don't really know what u are talking about.
plenty of engineers goto med school.</p>

<p>and just having a lot of people going to michigan med from michigan ug doesn't show much, umich is a state school, they favor instate students. Majority of students at umich are instate. </p>

<p>whatever, who cares if you agree or not. people going to top 20 universities are better self-motivated students to begin with, it has more to do with the fact that they cannot accept anything less of themselves than anything the schools did for them. plenty of people choose easier schools and they still end up in medical schools, it probably was easier this way too.</p>

<p>can you stop thinking alexandre? that everything people say is for you to agree or disagree with. ?</p>

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<p>NYao, I repeat, until you have served on a med school admissions committee, you are no position to make such broad statements.</p>

<p>I don't claim to know how med school admissions committee think but your broad staements are unsubstantiated by facts.</p>

<p>I agree that engineers can go to med school, but as an undergrad in engineering, you are no position to be counseling others on the best way to get into med school.</p>

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<p>ok, u are? which med school admissions committee do you serve on? u make me laugh, u actually think this thing is serious, sip some cola and lighten up.</p>

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<p>The jokes on you. You're the one with a 2.7 GPA in engineering but thinks that he is knows something about med school admissions.</p>

<p>And you wonder why no one will hire you for a summer internship? Instead of spending time on the CC making a fool of your self, try studying and getting your GPA up.</p>

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<p>okay....sooo....2 sum up is U of M or is U of M not a good place to pursue a pre-medical tract. </p>

<p>I have a had a fairly good high school record:
33 ACT
5's on 5 AP's so far Calc BC, Comp science, Gov, Bio, US hist
4.48 GPA 4.0 unweigthed
800 MATh LEvel 2
770 Bio
790 Writing
730 Chem
rank: 1/546
E.C.'s: A LOT but the most prominent are Blackbelt in Tae Kwon Do
Medical Research at NIH, and first place sciencefair winner </p>

<p>The only problem is that I've been rejected from a lot of BA/MD programs, and am now realizing that becoming a doctor is REALLY REALLY REALLY HARD. I still want to do it really badly, but i wanna know if U of M is the best place for me because most certainly it is the most affordable and closest to home. Otherwise i would hav 2 pay like $44,000 for an out of state private school.</p>

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<p>highschoolDoc,
what ba/Md programs did u get rejected from?
because my high school record isnt as great as urs...and im hoping for ba/mD programs...</p>

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<p>HighSchoolDOC, medical school is going to cost you a lot of money, might as well save as much as you can. Maintain a 3.5+ GPA at Michigan, do ok on the MCAT and you are guaranteed a very respectable medical school.</p>

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<p>wonder if political science and economics are equally competitive</p>

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<p>it just takes hard work if you're a slow learner...like me lol</p>

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<p>dude those rankings up there look bogus...r you telling me that if I get below a 27 and below a 3.4 gpa I may STILL get into A med school in the country?!!! that has gotta be wrong</p>