Pre-med program/financial aid for OOS at OSU

<p>Does anyone know anything about the pre-med program at OSU? The way I look at it is that for undergrad, no matter where a person goes, it will be the same quality-wise (correct me if I’m wrong), and I think that for UG, I’d have more fun at Ohio State than say michigan (although I want to go to Mich for grad school). So can anyone comment about their impressions about the pre-med program (especially about how competitive the students are and if its possible to get close interaction with profs). Also, how generous is OSU to OOS for financial aid? I currently got a 30 on the ACT, and should finish junior year with about a 3.87 in the hardest classes, so is there a chance I’ll get good aid or get into the honors college (I will post my full stats in a second)?</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>These are my full stats</p>

<p>Stats:
demographics:
*I am an Asian Indian Male (most likely won't help)
*From a competitive public high school in Oregon: Beaverton High School, which was also rated the best AP school in Oregon, so yeah, its a smart school. (being from oregon isn't going to help either)
*student body at school = 500+</p>

<p>The Numbers/ECs
*ACT Composite 30 (8 on essay . Definately will retake)</p>

<p>-English 30 (Usage/Mechanics 15 Rhetorical Skills 16)
-Science 24 (ouch..my chances)
-Reading 31 (Social Studies/Science 17 Arts/Literature 15)
-Mathematics 34
(Pre-Algebra/Elementary Algebra 18
Int.Algebra/Coord.Geometry 16 (again ouch)
Plane Geometry/Trigonometry 18)</p>

<p>*Freshman year:
Language Arts (Honors): A/A
Social Studies 9: A/A
Advanced Algebra 2: A/A
Bio/Chem/Phys 10 (Honors): A/A
SAT Math Prep: A
SAT Verbal Prep:A
Spanish 1:A/A
Team Sports:A
Health 1:A
Web Design:A
Computer Programming:A</p>

<p>*Sophomore Year:
AP Chem: B/A
Lit Comp 10 (Honors): A/A
Physics 2: A/A
Pre-Calc: A/B
Social Studies 10 :B/A (can explain this B)
Spanish 2:A/A
Symphonic Band: A/A
Team Sports: A
Health 2: A</p>

<p>*Junior Year:
Human Anatomy: A
IB Biology: A
Spanish 3: A
IB Calculus: A
IB Psychology: A
Team Sports: A
IB Seminar: P (pass, no credit class)
IB English: A
*Right now I have about a 3.897 UW, but assume for worst-case scenario that I finish with about a 3.87 UW for freshman-junior year.</p>

<p>*class rank UW right now = 38/515. Weighted = 30/515 (should go up)
*IB Diploma Candidate (to be)
*NHS (2 years)
*Varsity tennis 4 years (will have 4) (possibly captain next season)
*Science Team 4 years (will have 4)
*World Quest Trivia 4 years (will have 4)
*Science Club Treasurer (1 year)
*Science Club VP (2 years)
*Math Club (4 years) (VP 2 years)
*Portland Youth Philharmonic (2 years)
*Mathfest Algebra 2 1st place freshman year
*Oregon Invitational of Mathematics Tournament Participant Fresh Year
*Mathfest Participant (will have 4 years)
*6th Place at World Quest out of 32 10th grade
*Oregon Museum of Science and Industry Rising Star Program (will have 150-175 volunteer hours done)
*Mathcounts Tutor (about 50+ volunteer hours)
*Want to major in either Engineering, Economics, Math, Physics, Biology but then go on to med school.</p>

<p>I can't speak with any direct knowledge about your pre-med questions, but I was a pre-med waaaaay back when, and I know quite a few physicians in my professional life. I'll take a stab at some general advice:</p>

<p>While I wouldn't necessarily agree that "for undergrad, no matter where a person goes, it will be the same quality-wise" (there are differences and you would want to choose a school with a strong curriculum and decent reputation), your college transcript, MCAT scores and character will count more than the school name on your diploma. </p>

<p>Most medical schools like diversity (racial, ethnic and geographic), so going to the same UG school as the med school doesn't really give an advantage in traditional (4 + 4) medical school admissions. </p>

<p>There are many schools (OSU, MI and many others) that have premed-med combo programs (3+3, 2+4, etc.). Some accept freshman into the entire program (NEOUCOM in Ohio is one) at the beginning while some accept you into the program as a freshman, but require you to "apply" to the medical portion during your second year once you have proven yourself a bit (OSU is like that). If you are sold on medicine as a career and are comfortable with choosing the whole enchilada early (and if you qualify academically, of course), these programs can save you time and money.</p>

<p>You are going to build up quite a bit of debt during your medical education (but that can often be forgiven as part of the recruitment packages as you transition into practice) so I am a big believer in keeping the UG debt to a minimum if possible just to keep the stress level down.</p>

<p>In my opinion, there are opportunities in research universities and schools with medical schools and major medical centers on campus that might not be available at schools lacking these resources. It might enrich the UG experience and strengthen the med school resume (but again, it probably doesn't help much in getting in to that same medical school - see above). But the list of UG schools like this is still pretty big.</p>

<p>I am a bit curious as to why you would want to come to OSU from the west coast for undergrad. OSU isn't really a great deal for OOS students (although there is merit aid available, check other threads here). Like many states, Ohio provides substantial subsidy for in-state students and puts the whack on OOS. But other states are even worse than Ohio (the in-state/OOS differencial at Michigan is huge).</p>

<p>If you are serious about Michigan being your dream for grad/med school, you might want to consider looking at Michigan schools for UG (maybe not UM because it is so pricey for OOS) and establishing MI residency. I don't know exactly how that works, but it's a thought. Then again, OSU has a great medical school and a strong research presence. You could do the same thing in Ohio. ;)</p>

<p>Ohio is a lovely state and all, but it is sure a long hike from Oregon. And there are an awful lot of reasonably priced schools in between.</p>

<p>Just my 2 cents. You seem like a smart, motivated kid, I'm sure you will succeed wherever you go.
Good luck in whatever you choose.</p>

<p>PP</p>

<p>Wait, so OSU has a sophomore matriculation program (or basically a program that guarentees you a spot after your freshman year)? Does anyone have a link to this, because I tried looking to no avail :(</p>

<p>I don't know that I would use the word "guarantee", but, yes, OSU's program is called the Early Admission Pathway. Here is the link:</p>

<p><a href="http://medicine.osu.edu/futurestudents/admissions/eap/index.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://medicine.osu.edu/futurestudents/admissions/eap/index.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>From their site: "The Early Admission Pathway provides early entrance into the College of Medicine for a select group of National Merit Finalists, National Achievement Finalists, and National Hispanic Finalists, entering The Ohio State University in Autumn Quarter." </p>

<p>That's what I meant by "if you qualify academically". It isn't something you apply to during the college application process. It is a program you are invited to apply to once you are offered admission and honors affiliation at OSU. Even then it is a competitive program and selection is through interviews (and you still have to take the MCAT and maintain standards to stay in the program once you are accepted to EAP).</p>

<p>If you are a national merit finalist, offered OSU admission, and accepted into OSU honors, you will probably get a packet in the mail describing the EAP.</p>

<p>The EAP admission process a bit more complicated than some other schools programs, but then again, OSU is a choice medical school. :)</p>