Predicting AP scores and a Few Other Questions

<p>1) Do I send my SAT scores after sending my application? Do the scores have to reach the university before the Jan. 15 deadline?</p>

<p>2) Do I need to have my transcript sent to UK schools, or do they not want it?</p>

<p>3) How is everyone else predictig their AP grades? cause my scores will probably look something like this...
AP Physics- 4 or 5 (probably 5)
AP Calc- 4 or 5
AP English- ??? (I'ld guess 3 or 4?? I can't really say though)</p>

<p>I mean, it says on the UCAS application not to enter any predicted grades yourself without an instructor, but there is no way my teachers are going to be able to predict my grades this early. I was going to put them in anyways (I don't really see the harm in it, to be honest, besides risking my own chances by predicting badly), but I'm not so sure anymore.
I'm applying for Physics, so should I just predict a 3 for English? Will they not mind since its not related to my major? Or should I leave it all blank? I was worried that leaving it blank would lower my chances, and they wouldn't take me as seriously.</p>

<p>If it says not to enter any predicted grades by yourself, without an instructor, then do not do so. If you do, then they would be quite within their rights to regard your entire application as fraudulent, and withdraw any offer of a place. You need to speak to your teachers, make them understand that you do need predictions because you are applying to non-US universities and the deadline is Jan 15th. </p>

<p>They do appreciate that non-UK education systems are not entirely aligned with the UCAS system. I believe (although I’m sure cupcake / KEVP / someone more knowledgeable than me will be able to confirm) that the procedure is to put down your SAT scores as pending, and then inform them as soon as the results come out.</p>

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Yes. Entirely the norm for A-level students, who will not get their grades until August.</p>

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No, see answer above.</p>

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No, they probably don’t even know what a transcript is.</p>

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Surely your teachers have been teaching you for several years and know you quite well? So they should be able to predict roughly how well you might do. Over prediction of scores may make you more likely to get a conditional offer (again ENTIRELY THE NORM). However, the problem then is you have to reach those predictions or your offer may be rescinded (some unis are more likely to rescind than others. The top ones usually do). If you are only doing 3 APs, I would suspect that they will all be considered. So you don’t want to lose your place because you over-predicted your AP English grade,and they have to get a 5 to be admitted.</p>

<p>Hope this helps/ Please note I did UK A-levels so have no personal experience</p>

<p>thanks for the replies!</p>

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I’ve thought about that, but, like I said, I’ve thought about it and see no harm in it. the only person it could possibly hurt is myself, and none of my teachers would be bothered by it. and I hate to sound like a cheater, but there is honestly no way the unis would find out.</p>

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see, my primary worry is that my teachers will not be able to give me a good prediction, although I’m sure that they would try (or, most likely, tell me that they can’t give me good predictions). for example, in AP English most people start with failing essay scores in the beginning of the year, and by the time the exam roles around, they have above average scores.
AP courses are only a year long, and they teach entirely new concepts. it’s not easy to tell how well they’ll be grasped by the end of the year.</p>

<p>would UK universities not mind if the scores are blank? wouldn’t it make them reluctant to accept me since they have absolutely no idea how I’ll do?</p>

<p>I would be concerned they would interpret no prediction = predicted to fail.</p>

<p>It would make your application very unusual and possible unjudgeable if you have no actual or predicted test scores on it. Have you any AP, IB or SAT scores already? If not, the UK unis have absolutely no way to judge your potential compared to other applicants. Therefore, they may not want to take a risk on you.</p>

<p>I would only advise this strategy if you are applying for the lowest ranks UK unis, who will probably accept most overseas students because they need the money.</p>

<p>It’s entirely normal for results predicted by UK student’s A Level teachers to be imprecise. I was predicted AAB and got ABB (not one of my subject predictions was correct). Your teachers will have taught legions of other pupils before you, and will have a fair idea of how well students tend to do, based on both past performance, and how well they have faired between September and December, compared to final results. Certainly, they have a better idea than you do. </p>

<p>The universities will want to know what your teachers think of your academic performance, through the medium of predicted grades. </p>

<p>It may not be a perfect system (even for UK students), it may not fit in well with the US education system, but you still have to play ball unfortunately, for your own sake - and that means getting your teachers to predict your grades.</p>

<p>alright. thanks for all the help! :slight_smile: I’ll try to ask my teachers and see how it goes.</p>

<p>oh, just one more thing. the exact wording on UCAS is:
“Any pending qualifications that you have entered on your application are displayed below. Please select / enter the predicted grades provided by your referee. If your referee is unable to provide any predicted grades, please leave this section blank. Do not attempt to fill this in if your referee has not provided any predicted grades.”</p>

<p>my referee is my guidance counselor, not a teacher, so she obviously can’t predict. so asking teachers shouldn’t be a problem right? I’m guessing that’s what they’re intending, because they’re assuming that my referee is a teacher or that my teachers are informing my referee</p>

<p>sorry if I sound paranoid, I just want to be sure… :)</p>

<p>From that wording it looks like it is ok to leave the section blank (but I personally wouldn’t). </p>

<p>I can tell you how the vast majority of people do this in the UK. Everyone has a form teacher (like a home room teacher) and they usually write the reference., But they ask the subject teachers for predicted A-level grades if they do not teach the student for every subject. It seems like you are doing something very similar.</p>

<p>You need to tell your guidance counselor that they should comment on your academic brilliance! Especially in the subject you are applying for. Plus how focused you are. You probably know that ECs are not important (unless very closely related to the course you are applying for), and neither is being well-rounded, but make sure your counselor knows this if they have not written a UCAS reference before.</p>

<p>I wish you best of luck with your application.</p>

<p>I’ll echo what cupcake said - my form tutor asked all my subject teachers for references and pulled them into one big reference. It would be helpful if you could show this to your referee [UCAS</a> - Writing references](<a href=“UCAS | At the heart of connecting people to higher education”>UCAS | At the heart of connecting people to higher education)</p>