<p>God. I hate group projects too. There's always that one person that wants to be in your group because you look smart or, in my case, asian.</p>
<p>I heard about this too. Maybe for the first quarter, I'll be intimidated (I know I'll be, no shame there) but I'll find my stride. There's always that dumb person at school that everyone wonders "how did they get into this school?" hopefully, that won't be me, lol.</p>
<p>The only reason more transfer students get in is because many freshman don't have what it takes. I know 3 kids from my HS that dropped out of UCLA because they broke down and lost it. They looked down at me for going to a CCC. Karma, baby, karma.</p>
<p>I think it depends on the major. In the sciences, transfer students are truthfully not on par with freshman admits. This is not due to the inherent differences between the abilities of the students, but the limits of CC eduction. Let's face it, most CC science classes are complete crap with watered-down material.</p>
<p>As a biology major, I've found that many transfer students struggle in math, chemistry, organic chemistry, and general biology classes. Their foundations in the basic sciences are just not as solid as those of the freshman admits. The transfer students, however, are much more hardworking than the freshman admits. Whereas normal students would just spend an hour in the lecture and procrastinate until midterm season, transfer students would constantly be working. I admire their meticulous work-horse mentality that many freshman admits have lost somewhere along the way.</p>
<p>i did not experience that at all, everyone was very transfer friendly in my classes, and in terms of group projects- i organized everyone and did everything and made all the slides and presentations- i was like the "parent" of the group. I was 22 at the time and there is a huge gap about what it means to be responsible between a 22 year old who has to pay bills and a 19 year old who lives on campus.</p>
<p>Actually i found many of the kids there to be a bit on the dumb side when it came to understanding things just form lecture- there was a lot of stupid questions in my econ and math discussions coming from the non transfers. </p>
<p>Also- 20 units of cc does not equal 20 units of UC. I did 24 units with all A's at CC and a full time job and had a VERY hard time doing 16 units at UC with a job.</p>
<p>thecalilife- "Also- 20 units of cc does not equal 20 units of UC. I did 24 units with all A's at CC and a full time job and had a VERY hard time doing 16 units at UC with a job."</p>
<p>Join the club :)
I ALWAYS get picked because I am perceived as the "smart one". I just wish people would pick me for more collaborative thought processes. I don't like being picked because I appear smart and will do all the work.</p>
<p>Another thing I hate is when people actually do help but their work is... let's say... under par. I usually take it home and fix it up to my standards. Luckily college hasn't been like this. I hang around intelligent people to further expand each others intelligence and not to get leached off of >_<</p>
<p>I'm not talking about 20 units that consist of "easy A" courses. I am talking about upper-division CC work. Stuff like Oceanography, Microeconomics, Macroeconomics, Western History till 1500, Western History since 1500, Honors Comparative politics.
Not like Art appreciation, English 101, Math 98, etc.</p>
<p>I'm not saying that 22 units at a CC is equivalent to 22 units at a UC. What I am saying is that the amount of effort I have put into my classes along with honors course work, I can compare the units but not equate them.</p>
<p>Honestly, it shouldn't be too surprising that some people will discriminate against transfer students. But really, who cares? At that point, we're in UC because UC thought we were worth the space. End of story.</p>
<p>If someone really starts getting in your face about it, fight back not by recalling your CC days but by kicking his ass in a test. Should be enough to silence those slanderous kids :)</p>
<p>Even though I am not taking it, you wouldn't call Calculus 2, Calculus 3, Calculus based Physics, etc, upper division? Well... I don't mean upper division as in 3rd or 4th year courses. What I means is courses that are farther beyond introduction courses.</p>
<p>lol.... those students who talking trash about transfers make me laugh. Thinking they're the god's gift of the world make it more enjoyable to see how far they can get through life. Watch! we will rise! :)</p>
<p>I took Calc 3, stats, Russian 4, Bio 210, Gen chem 1, English 101- that would constitute a lot of those "upper division" classes for community college, honestly it was not hard and i missed a lot of class. I would also say that for me, most of the courses you mentioned would fall into the easy A category- except maybe history but that would be solely due to the fact that i hate the subject.</p>
<p>I went to UCLA- the big difference form CC to UC is the 10 weeks term versus 16/18. And method of instruction is very different. </p>
<p>Transfers usually do better b/c they are older and in turn more responsible. Age does play a factor at least when it came to the people i met. When you go straight out of high school you have less appreciation for the fact that you are at XYZ university- when you transfer you sort of realize what this means in the grand scheme of things more.</p>
<p>I went to UCLA- the big difference form CC to UC is the 10 weeks term versus 16/18. And method of instruction is very different.
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<p>Agreed. Hell, I've done all nighters for Calc 1/2/3, same with physics and chemistry, and walked out with A's on exams at my CC. I'm in EE at UCLA, so we're graded on curves. The difference between CC and UCLA courses is like night and day. Everyone is just as smart, and you're graded on your performance relative to your classmates. Again this is true for most South Campus courses (ie. sciences, math, engineering). When you transfer, and you walk out of your first midterm feeling like you blew it, don't worry everyone probably feels the same way, or at least you should hope so. :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>Look, there is no "transfer hate" going around, or at least I haven't experienced it. I have met a good deal of engineering transfers, and they are not teased or what have you. No one knows or gives a ****. Most transfers have done very well actually. For example, I know that a significant number of this year's UCLA's Tau Beta Pi new members were last year's transfers. Take that for whatever it's worth.</p>
<p>Well, w/e.
:rolleyes:</p>
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<p>They are intro courses...**** you should have learned in HS! >.></p>
<p>I'm sure those comments represent a very small portion of the "bad apples" at UCLA. I hardly think that many students as intelligent and responsible as those who attend UCLA would stoop to such juvenile rants. I suggest some of you should steer clear of generalizations as well.... You sound just as bad as they do.</p>
<p>as in sororities and frats. not the culture and/or ethnicity... the Greeks are wonderful people.</p>
<p>lol, i just had to say that b/c I once made a comment about greek frats/sororities and someone thought I said "Greeks"... I got an earful and the glorious Greek culture that I should be very thankful for.</p>