<p>But I heard there wasn't much of a variety at all. This was what my cousin said that goes there. You have biology of course, but then there's limited majors availible for premed. Besides they don't have a "premed" major, but a prehealth one. I wonder what's that . . .</p>
<p>Does anyone ANYONE, know how good UT is at premed really?</p>
<p>theres no such thing as a premed or a prehealth major. its just a set of curriculum you take to go on to new things after college, to the graduate schools, like dental school, med school, etc.</p>
<p>prehealth is the term that covers all their health related fields that require grad school. this includes dentists, doctors, eye doctors, etc. you take the required courses, take the admission test (such as the MCAT), and hopefully you get into the grad school you're aiming for. again, prehealth is NOT a major, NEITHER is premed. you could be a literature major and still do premed because you would only have to take premed's required courses. premed is only a term for courses you take that are a basis for entering your desired grad school, whether it be dental school or med school.</p>
<p>utds science majors include chem, bio, nueroscience, and maybe some others. its more focused on CS and EE. (it churns out more CS bachlor degrees than any other college in the nation).</p>
<p>uts premed, i have found out recently, is decent. it truly depends what major you choose and how smart you are and how hard you are actually willing to work (other than hospital work and lab work, premed is all about gpa, and yes, mcat scores), besides the fact that parties go on every second in austin. (Plan II kids have an average mcat score of 33; note, to get into plan II, the min requirements are to be in top 5% of your class and make a 1400 or higher on the SAT. this has very little to do with the plan II curriculum, because it has almost nothing to do with premed or natural sciences for that matter, but because these kids are smart. so i'll reiterate, you have to be willing to work extra hard at ut if you plan on getting into med school, because it is not a very premedtomed oriented school; business and engineering are its strengths)</p>
<p>Thanks again kahuna. Damn I should have applied to Dean's Scholars or Plan II. It would have offset it. Can you apply like mid semester or something?</p>
<p>Yeah. I talked to Alan Cline and he said that in the second year, 5-8 students get into Deans Scholars. But Plan II, even though it is 4 times bigger than DS, only takes 2 or 3 or so people further into the year.</p>
<p>So the easiest way to get in has just past I assume.</p>
<p>Maxlee, I am a doctor, went to both UT D and UT A. Three of my brother in laws are medical professors and have often sat on the admissions programs and so have I. My wife is also a doctor. I had two sons. One went to UT D, the other to UT A. Both were in pre-med..
I have often researched exactly what you are asking.
So, I believe nobody in the world is in a better position to give you the most accurate evaluation of UT Austin's premed or tell you which school is better, than I am.</p>
<p>The school that is clearly superior for pre-med is:</p>
<p>Relax, you can get into med school from any of the schools you are considering. It all gets down to whether you want to go with the money or spend more at UT Austin.. Differences in the pre-med programs are statistically insignificant. You will have to make your decision on some other factor unless you prefer to fool yourself that you are doing so on quality or better acceptance rate. </p>
<p>BTW which one did you hope I would say was superior?</p>
<p>Just kidding about the background. See the pre-med forum where doctors, and those who spend all their working moments on this, have concluded it makes little if no difference.</p>
<p>PS, I saw your scores and class rankings. If you can keep up your great work ethic , show an interest and not go crazy from excessive worry, you should have a 90% chance at least of getting into med schoo at all your choices. IMHO.</p>
<p>well, the notion that going to any school for premed has already been set. one could go to austin college for premed or harvard. it doesnt matter. i think most people know that by know, as well as maxlee. there are now, only two problems to address.</p>
<p>1) what are the acceptance rates of premed to med
2) Plan B</p>
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<li><p>this is important, however one might deem it to not be. if a colleges premed to med rate is 20%, i would certainly not go there. if a colleges premed to med rate is 90%, then i would definitely go there. its safe to say that all potential or current premed students WANT to be doctors and work their butts off to achieve that goal. it is only now dependent on how good a college prepares that student for med school, whether if they have a dependent set of premed advisors, or if a particular college is strict with their grading and therefore gpas are low, etc. so, again, obviously, anyone who is in premed is willing to work hard for it and have the most "unsocial" life ever; it only matters now how well a college prepares a student for med school, and thats why the percentage rates statistics are so important.</p></li>
<li><p>plan b. one must consider the fact that if one does NOT make medical school, then what? your major, whatever you choose, would have to be one that you would enjoy having and applying such knowledge towards a future job, in case one does not make med school. in this case, you'd have to choose the college that has the particular major you're interested in (unless you dont care about plan b) as well as one that has a premed program that will maximize your chances of getting into med school.</p></li>
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<p>on a side note, utd, as i have already told you maxlee, is a good choice for premed. im not too knowledgable about uta however.</p>
<p>Thanks texdad, that's like the most reassuring post I've seen in awhile. I doubt my chances are 90%, but I think I can cut above the average.</p>
<p>You left out an important factor in the college experience but I guess that's not what you're going for. I believe that if you are smart enough and are determined enough, there's nothing to keep you from getting into medical school no matter what the school's acceptance rate is. I guess that's just my attitude on college. UT's rate might be lower because a lot of students tend to party and not study as much, as is widely known. I guess you have to know how much is enough. </p>
<p>If I had wanted to study and focus only on medical school then I would have definitely gone to Austin College, as they give out lots of money and are really good at their programs. I'm actually more of a self-study kind of person, I don't always listen to the teachers in class, but tend to like to do it more by myself as long as I have the sources to study from. I guess I can manage without the "superb" education.</p>
<p>On a side note, is it possible to get into medical school while studying on the lines of a pharmacy degree at UT?</p>
<p>again, premed is NOT a major. you can choose any major you want and STILL do premed as long as you take the premed required courses, which many go along w/ the prepharmacy requirements as well. (pharmarcy is not a degree, but like medicine, requires one to go to pharmacy school after college). and fyi, pharmacy school is harder to get into than medical school.</p>
<p>"I believe that if you are smart enough and are determined enough, there's nothing to keep you from getting into medical school no matter what the school's acceptance rate is."</p>
<p>its good to have an optimistic view, but you also need to take into account the facts of reality. go look through the medical forum and you'll notice the sad cases of some premed students who didnt make it to med school. for instance, one post revealed some MIT premeds who had 3.8/3.9 gpas and 33s or 34s on their mcats and DID NOT get into med school. maybe these premeds didnt do enough lab work or hospital volunteering, or did not apply to enough med schools, or whatever the case may be; the the point is, trying to get into med school is a large gamble and is based on a variety of factors. having an optimistic mindset is great, but there are a lot of things that could "keep you from getting into medical school." just be prudent in how you piece everything together and you will maximize your chances.</p>
<p>but back to the original topic, how is premed at ut austin?</p>
<p>Since when have I said premed was a major? Dude, I've known that since forever. I just used it to generalize the thing as a whole. </p>
<p>"you also need to take into account the facts of reality"</p>
<p>Do you think I'm not aware how hard it is to actually get into med school? I've read through the boards, talked to my relatives, etc. If you look at reality too much and fail then it's gonna be pretty depressing for you afterwards, that's all I'm saying. Besides like I said before, I'm not 100% sure on doing this and that's probably why I'm leaning towards UT. I might not even wind up doing medical altogether after my first two years. UT just gives you more options then say the other schools. I think your interview also has a big say on if you'll get into med school or not. Maybe some people study all their lives but don't focus on the other aspects of it. Some people just study to do medicine just for the money and I think that's just terrible. As long as you have all the intangibles along with your smarts, I think you'll do fine.</p>
<p>Sorry for getting a little frustrated, but life is tough, you have to be optimistic sometimes to prevent yourself from going crazy. =)</p>
<p>I know someone who tells me that many people told him that he would never get in med school and that he could never pay for it if he did. But he knew what he wanted and he ended up with many acceptances and ended up at Baylor College of Medicine after graduating from UT Austin.</p>
<p>So if you know what you want and you're determined to get it then it will probably happen regardless of what others tell you. Isn't it " the harder I work, the luckier I get" or something like that? Listen to yourself, know your own abilities and if YOU feel you have a reasonable to good chance then go for it. Things will work out. That's my advice. And I'm sticking to it.</p>