<p>Unless UCB does something really anomalous, there is no “release” regarding admissions statistics. You just e-mail them and tell them.</p>
<p>How do schools with more reliable data do it?</p>
<p>Most private schools manage their students’ secondary applications via controlling LORs. This doesn’t give them output data, but it does mean they’re intimately involved with their students.</p>
<p>These stats are atrocious but here goes…Emory…</p>
<p>2009:
<a href=“http://www.career.emory.edu/parents/pdf/Applicants_Emory_2009_Matrix.pdf[/url]”>http://www.career.emory.edu/parents/pdf/Applicants_Emory_2009_Matrix.pdf</a></p>
<p>2010:
<a href=“Career Center | Emory University”>http://www.career.emory.edu/parents/pdf/Applicants_Emory_2010_Matrix.pdf</a></p>
<p>What makes them atrocious?^^^</p>
<p>^^^ A school of Emory’s caliber should not have an overall 55 percent acceptance rate, more importantly if you look closely at the charts, half the pre-meds can’t score above a 30 on the mcats. If you look at peer schools, you will see that they have much higher acceptance rates and higher MCAT scores. STEP YOUR GAME UP EMORY…</p>
<p>An 80% acceptance rate for a 3.6/30+ looks pretty good to me…:)</p>
<p>WashU’s is on page 55 (second to last).</p>
<p><a href=“http://prehealth.wustl.edu/Documents/Handbook2010.pdf[/url]”>http://prehealth.wustl.edu/Documents/Handbook2010.pdf</a></p>
<p>^^^^ The fact that half of us can’t score above a 30, is not a good thing. lol.</p>
<p>Thanks to Colleges0701 and bluebayou for their postings.</p>
<p>I do not have a link to a similar grid for DS’s school. But I remember I saw a power point slide from DS’s premed office on which it shows the average MCAT score for all applicants from his school is some number between 32 and 33. I remember this because it was DS’s target score before his real test.</p>
<p>It looks like the general trend is that people below a 3.5 have virtually no chance at getting into medical schools.</p>
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<p>Indeed, it is quite difficult. At Harvard, 95% of those with a GPA of 3.5 or above are admitted to medical school and roughly 80%-85% of students overall. However, institutionally compiled statistics pertaining to undergraduate qualifications are rather misleading since so many students fall out and ultimately don’t complete the track. Many universities are, by nature, quite notorious for their extensive “weed out” aptitude.</p>
<p>^^Harvard also has the distinct advantage in that is is comprised of the top testers in the world. On average, H has the highest SAT/ACT scores, the highest mean LSAT scores, and I’m guessing the highest mean MCAT scores. Thus, an average 3.5 from H is likely to have a much higher mcat than a 3.5 from, say Arizona State.</p>
<p>Yes, Harvard is the nation’s best at placing undergraduates into high-profile graduate and professional school opportunities. A 95% acceptance rate for those above a 3.5 is a fair bit above the national average. Much of that success may be attributed to the basic collective quality of the group, but I believe a portion certainly pertains to the institution itself.</p>
<p>Granted, Harvard kids may be quite successful on this. But if we have access to the data about the acceptance rates for those with 3.5-3,59, 3.6-3.69, …, 3.99-4.00 respectively, we may know how important the grades are for students coming from such a school.</p>
<p>Just a hypothetical example: assuming that the admission rates for these 5 group of students are X, 100%, 100%, 100%, and 100%, and each group has the same number of applicants and the overall admission rate for 3.5+ is 95%. All of a sudden, the X may not be so great. (A math guy could figure this out quickly.)</p>
<p>I do not know the situation for H’s students. But in recent years, for many students from top-10 colleges, it appears the admission rate (at least for being admitted to one of the top-20/30 medical schools) may be not so high for a kid with a 3.5. I know some applicant from a top-10 college who struggled to get into a top-60/70 medical schools (almost like any medical school) with a 3.5 and a not so stellar mcat score during last application cycle. One kid with close to 3.95/40 got into a single medical school (albeit a top-20 one) possibly due to a strategy error. Maybe ECs are not so great for these kids??</p>
<p>You have to remember that the national average GPA for eventual medical students is something like a 3.5, so it’s really not that terrible. UPenn students average something like a 3.35. If the median is close to that mean, then half of students who get into medical school have less than a B+ average.</p>
<p>A strong-stats candidate who does poorly at high-ranked medical schools could be low on research, clinical experience, interviews, essays, and, above all, TIMING.</p>
<p>Do not underestimate the state of residency. It is important at some places (U of Mich). 4.0/35 with all kind of medical and non-medical EC’s and excellent LOR might not be a strong candidate there.</p>
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<p>Well, if one were to properly model this situation mathematically, it would basically appear as the latter half of a Gaussian distribution. Hence, within the 3.50-4.00 range*, the 3.500-3.599 pool (when going by GPA increments of .10) would naturally be the most populated. Given that the greatest percentage of applicants would be situated within that lower accretion, the overall success rate should not be significantly lower than the reported average across the entire 3.5-4.0 spectrum and certainly more favorable than the value of 75% if each increment contained an equal number of applicants. </p>
<p>*Of course, 3.9+ pre-medicine GPAs at Harvard are exceptionally uncommon.</p>
<p>Hi all, </p>
<p>I have been on college confidential since august and have this question - what does " bump" mean??</p>
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<p>Replying with “bump” is an indication that the user wishes to return a thread to the top of the inventory of active threads within a forum. Usually, this is done because there is new information to communicate, an inquiry left unanswered, or simply for the sake of popularizing it relative to separate threads (particularly if it has fallen from the first page of a forum, which will subsequently cause it to receive very little additional attention). On some occasions, “bumping” is done frivolously for comical effect (i.e. reviving a four-year-old discussion with no relevance to immediate concerns) or to resurrect a nettlesome conversation.</p>
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<p>Just curious, how uncommon is this? (your best “guestimate.”) Suppose there are, say, 300, applicants from this college each year. How many premeds may apply with 3.9+ GPA? 40 or 50 students, or fewer?</p>
<p>Usually, it is easier to find out how many students (premed or not) of each graduating class have 3.9+ GPA. (e.g., the number of students in PBK, and the GPA cutoff for this academic honor.) It is not easy to know how many among these students are premed.</p>
<p>DS’s school seems to have graduated a grand total of a single student with a 4.0 last year. (He was a premed and is now in a MD/PhD program now.) And I heard this does not happen every year. (maybe once every 3-4 years?) Another student with a 3.99 GPA did not get into the same medical school (its MD program). This points to the fact that, in order to be admitted into a top medical school, a high GPA and a high MCAT may be necessary conditions but are not sufficient conditions. I think these top schools use the stats as a screening device; they tend to ask for more than these. That is the reason why some CCers here said a great EC could tromp a MCAT/GPA.</p>