Pres. Interview letters

<p>Wanted to go for business. Didn't get an interview. Pretty upset. Can't afford this expensive school without the scholarship so I guess I'm not going here. Thanks a lot villanova.
Rank 8/594
SAT 1480/2200
GPA 4.36w
sport captain, bus. club prez, class treasurer, 300+ volunteer hrs, the works.
Don't know what else I could've done. </p>

<p>I'd be interested to see to what others got. Sorry for my pessimism. Just upset. Congrats to all those who got called for interviews. You must be amazing kids.</p>

<p>Same. I'm really I dunno. I'm kind of... I don't know, numb? I guess I got too cocky and expected it, or at LEAST the 12k. Can't afford it either, even with financial aid. And I don't know if being in run for the 1k scholarship is going to help me that much, considering Villanova's gonna be OVER 50K soon. Urgh.</p>

<p>Rank: N/A
SAT: 1490/2280
GPA: 4.48w
Art Editor for the literary magazine, school newspaper, Girl Scout Gold Award in prog, Bloustein Scholar, over 300 volunteer hours, took all the AP classes my school offered my schedule (4 senior year, 1 junior year), born in Poland, etc. etc. </p>

<p>I dunno. I feel horrible because I don't know what else I could have sent them, shown them, etc. My parents are angry too and I don't know if it's with me or what but I don't know how to deal with this. Villanova was my dream. I don't even know where else to look now. I'm just. And I totally agree with your message before the edit. Completely. Hope you feel better, cos if you're feeling what I'm feeling it's just... urgh.</p>

<p>I'm a no also.
White male
1580/2290
12/650
4.0/5.0
NMF
Eagle Scout
LOTS of band and leadership.
Here is the kicker:
I have HUNDREDS of hours of volunteer service at our church. I altar serve/captain/coach, am a confirmation peer leader, youth rep on church council, eucharistic minister and have taught Kindergarten CCD for two years!!
I don't know what they are looking for, but obviously not me. VN was the lowest of all the schools I applied to, but I thought maybe I'd want to go the Catholic education route. I need the large scholarship to go to anywhere pricey. And ohlollipop, it is NOW over $50K, look at Novasis, they recently updated Cost of Attendance. Sorry, but it can't be worth THAT much.....</p>

<p>Well, you're all quite remarkable students with wonderful leadership qualities. I can understand why you're disappointed.</p>

<p>But all of you are talking as though you've been rejected and there's no hope! There's no reason to give in to that disappointment. So you didn't get an interview for a Presidential Scholarship? There's lots of other financial aid, including scholarship and grant aid. </p>

<p>Before abandoning ship or giving up hope. see what financial aid offer is made to you. I know it's disappointing, but you still might be very pleasantly surprised.</p>

<p>I think all of our points were that at $50K a year, we needed the scholarship to go to VN. It is definitely not a school worth that kind of money(do they think they are Notre Dame??) if you need to take on that much debt to afford it. The $1000 consolation prize is almost a joke at that kind of money. Personally, I would need the full amount of Pres. to make it in my top choices. They are not anywhere near a great engineering school. Of all the schools I applied to, VN had the lowest admissions stats and academic rankings. I was considering it due to the Catholic angle. So, for me it is a rejection. Since they were my third choice, even WITH the money, I am not torn up that much. Bitter, maybe, but not torn up!</p>

<p>Your sudden hostility toward Villanova is understandable given your feeling of rejection. But if you were picking schools you couldn't afford based on a belief that you were going to get a full scholarship given to only a small number of students, then I think you have the wrong approach. And from your other posts, it does not seem to be working out for you at your other schools either. As for cost, most quality private schools are in the $45 - $50K price range if you include all costs (books, travel etc). You can easily argue that none of them are "worth it" yet that is what people pay. If you really do't have the financial resources then I would suspect you are eligible for financial aid. if not, I am not sure how you are going to be able to pay for the other top caliber schools either. I hope you have applied to some cheap safety schools. And if you read the letter closely, it says you are eligible for other scholarships "starting" at $1000.</p>

<p>Hostility? No, I said bitterness. And yes, thanks for pointing out to me what a loser I am, ChiDad. You like to bring people down in your posts as well. I DID apply to some schools knowing that I would need the big $ to go there. I also applied at a few well known engineering flagships where I have close to or a full ride. I am going to my #2 school, full ride. As I said, I was disappointed because I really am appreciative of being Catholic and VN just didn't seem to appreciate it. Thanks for the support, dad.</p>

<p>I'm curious bandnerd, whats ur #2?</p>

<p>Well, bitterness is a form of hostility, is it not? I think you're making a distinction without much difference there. You describe yourself as bitter.</p>

<p>I want to repeat that at this point there is no reason to accept disappointment, bitterness or hostility. I assume you do not yet know what financial aid, including grants and scholarships, Villanova may offer you. You don't have to make a decision until April. Why not wait till you have all the facts in hand and then make a decision?</p>

<p>Nah. I think of bitter as more resentful. Hostile is definitely aggression. I don't feel aggressive toward them. Just resentful they didn't appreciate me! And there is no way additional scholarships will give me close to a full ride here. As I have pointed out, I did apply to three schools knowing I would need the "big" scholarship to go there. My version of "dream schools". I knew I could get in, but knew I couldn't normally afford them. So, there is no aggression toward any of them. I just felt I had a REALLY good chance for the big one at VN over all the others. Not saying I would have def gone to any of them but Emory. Maybe they could tell by my other schools that I probably was not serious to go here. Good luck at VN, Blaneyboy!</p>

<p>"Not saying I would have def gone to any of them but Emory."
So now you tell us that you are bitter and resentful that you did not get a full scholarship to a school that you did not want to go to in the first place? There are so many amazingly talented kids on this board, and many more who aren't, that applied to those schools and for those scholarships. While you are certainly one of them, you are by no means alone. Many many kids have performed amazing community service, have outstanding grades and test scores, and write excellent essays. And it is insulting to so many other supremely talented young adults for you to assume that you "had a really good chance" at a scholarship given to only a handful of kids. It is also insulting to suggest that Villanova would not select you because you were too talented as evidenced by the schools you applied to. Please. My advice, which I am sure you will reject, is to look around and begin to appreciate more the amazing kids that exists right next to. And you will learn in time, that test scores and grades do NOT make a quality person. Those are soon forgotten, your personality and the way you treat others will last forever. Just my humble opinion of course.</p>

<p>correct me if im wrong chidad, but weren't the presidential scholarship finalists selected for interviews based on their grades and test scores? Then, the quality of the person is determined through an interview. We are all just upset that nova didn't even give us a chance to see us in person. Bandnerd is upset b/c he DID HAVE A GOOD CHANCE, all of us complaining here did, but him most of all, b/c the initial round was based on grades, and we all had great ones. worked our tails off in high school to achieve em, so thats why were upset/resentful/bitter/hostile. whatever you wanna call it.</p>

<p>ChiDad, many kids do the same thing. That's right, I may not have gone to VN even if they gave me the full ride. It would be my religion v. a better program for me. Did your child only apply to ONE school, the one he would definitely go to? They never met me, so I can't take it as an affront against me, but rather the "package" I worked so hard on. I hope to God your kid is perfect. Pick on someone your own age. If you don't like listening to kids spew off like we do, then go to the Parents forum and bully there. I was so over this the day after. My self esteem is much better than that. YOU like to antagonize people. Don't tell me the way I treat people, look to your own postings. That's right, VN is NOT everyone's first choice. Get over it. Thanks smoltz for understanding.</p>

<p>Presidential Scholarship finalists are not just chosen based on their grades and test scores. It is a much bigger process then just seeing what they got on the SATs and looking at their GPA. You guys got into the school so I have to agree with ChiDad, stop complaining about it. I would be upset too but there is no reason to put down the school now. There are only a very select number of people who they give the scholarship to. There are so many people out there and some of them are better than you.</p>

<p>No, what was said was that finalists were not chosen by interviews, only by paper resumes and apps submitted. They could not have dismissed people due to personality as another poster claimed. They never met anyone. You are right VN girl. They do give a select number and that is it. Not upset, ego bruised. Have recovered. Good luck.</p>

<p>i know they don't only look at grades and scores! no school does...i meant that they didn't get to know me, they just looked at the usual grades scores ecs leadership essays etc.</p>

<p>Well, this is what you said. And I quote "correct me if im wrong chidad, but weren't the presidential scholarship finalists selected for interviews based on their grades and test scores?"</p>

<p>And I am answering that for him and saying that the finalists were selected based on grades and test scores but not only that. </p>

<p>I actually met some of them last night because many of them were here visiting and they were very nice and grateful people unlike some of the people here who need to face the fact that they are not the worlds greatest.</p>

<p>oh really? im not villanova girl? thats too bad, cause I really thought I was the worlds greatest. no actually, I was really hoping to get invited b/c i liked the school, their business school is #12 in the U.S., and I like that its catholic, so I was merely dissappointed b/c I was hoping, not expecting! thats what would be cocky. and you dont need to tell me what i said, but once again, if you didn't understand it the first time, was that they only looked at whats on paper, "grades and scores" were symbolic of that. and pardon me, but shouldn't you be studying, making your 48k education worthwhile, rather than arguing with a buncha high schoolers!</p>

<p>I'm not here to argue and I'm not here to throw insults around in every post to try and make people angry. I'm simply stating my opinions on a public forum. If you don't want to hear others responses, don't post. There is no need to be angry just because you're not hearing what you want to hear. Grow up.</p>

<p>Villanova girl...thank you for your defense of me...your repsonses in general show a maturity that Bandnerd would benefit from. I have no reason topick on him, so I will stop, but I suspect that it is possible his essay for the pres scholarship on who he is reflected some of his naive view of himself. If the finalists were selected ONLY on grades, there would have been no need for additional info. Instead they asked for an introspective essay and, I believe, a recommendation. And I still maintain that there are a lot of kids with grades and test scores comparable to his, with even more amazing extra's. he just doesn't see past his own impressive credentials. he will learn and hopefully have a very successful college experience.</p>