<p>So recently Ive been accepted to UMich,NYU,Fordham and waitlisted at URichmond.
Im a business major but Im in UMich and NYU in their LAC and Fordham and URichmonds business school. I plan on getting internships and hopefully working in the States after graduating. (Im an international student btw)
However, Im indecisive. I do not know which college I should go to.
For UMich and NYU, they are much more prestigious compared to the other two but I do not think I will enjoy myself there.
UMich is a big school and they tend to party a lot (Im not too hot in the party scene) and NYU lacks a sense of a community (no campus feel etc) and NYU is really expensive.
I like URichmond and Fordham as its a nice size, (less than 10k students) pretty campuses and they seem to have nice students there.( according to student reviews) I think Im a better fit in these two schools too.
Problem is, no one in my country has heard of these two schools(Richmond/Fordham) but they have heard of NYU and UMich and think highly of it.</p>
<p>If I want to get jobs, regardless whether in the States or my country, NYU and UMich will be looked highly upon.
Should I go to a school which I will enjoy myself but not prestigious or go into a school which is prestigious with better job prospects?</p>
<p>Another problem is that I want to join a fencing team which both Urichmond and Fordham lacks of.</p>
<p>Also, I did not apply for financial aid so Im basically paying the full price for all the schools above. Money isnt really a factor in making the decision although I dont want to spend so much of my dads money. $300k for an undergrad degree is darn expensive IMO.
I dare not tell my father I got accepted to NYU and UMich as I am sure he will force me to attend it, even though he is not fond of liberal arts.</p>
<p>IF you don’t think you will enjoy yourself somewhere than don’t go! Im am also a future Business major and have had to decide between NYU, Richmond, and Fordham myself. Below I will detail what I thought of each school.</p>
<p>NYU-
Pros:
In the middle of the city, great location
Ranked and respected very well
Great internship and study abroad opportunitues
That’s all I could really find</p>
<pre><code> Cons:
NO CAMPUS-- basically a bunch of buildings scattered around the city
Cutthroat to the max
My Cousin goes there but is not a business major. But her roomate is a biz major and said that Stern (Business School) is extremely cut throat and ignorant. I’m a very friendly person and love working with others. THIS WAS A KILLER FOR ME
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An actual campus feel in the middle of the city
The campus is amazingly beauitful!!
Brand new state of the art Business School
Amazing internship opportunities
2,600 COMPANIES offering internships
Amazing study abroad opportunities (London especially)
A loving, caring, and friendly student body and staff
Jesuit Morals
Contrary to what you say Fordham is Ranked very good
US WORLD NEWS And reports: #23 in finance and #21 in marketing
Bloomberg: #40 overall (rising 9 places since last year)
Fordham's Gabelli School of Business is so hot right now and expected to be in the top 25 business schools within the next 5 years (upon your graduation)
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<p>Cons:</p>
<pre><code> Location in the Bronx (although students swear they feel very safe at all times)
One Dining Hall (A new student center including dining hall is about to be built)
Expensive (But worth the investment)
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<p>Being a business student in the business capital of the world (NYU and Fordham) is the most amazing opportunity a business student could ever wish for. I dont understand why anyone would go anywhere else as a business major. Being a student in NYC will leave you well equipted with the real world once you get into it. This is the reason I did not choose Richmond. </p>
<p>AS you can see I LOVE Fordham. Trust me I have heavily considered these three schools and feel like I have made the best decision for myself. I cannot wait to be a Fordham Ram!!! </p>
<p>I hope to see you at the open house April 14th!!!</p>
<p>Thanks for your detailed reply, GabelliOrVSB. You mean you got accepted to NYU,Fordham and Urichmond to? What other schools did you get accepted to?
What’s your opinion on UMich though, in comparison with the rest? I mean it’s ranking seems to be really top too right?
And I’ve read many positive things about URichmond too, very hard to dicard it. But then again I’m still WL for URichmond.</p>
<p>Please remember, that as an international student, your work options in the US are much more limited than those of a US student. This includes internship options. Contact each department and ask them very specifically about their placement for internationals. While pursuing your degree, your work will be governed by the US government’s policy on CPT, and after graduation it will be governed by the policy on OPT. The amount of OPT for a business major who does not study Actuarial Science is significantly less than that of a student in an STEM field. Basically, you can work here for 12 months after graduation and then you have to leave unless you’ve found an employer who can get you an H1B (work) visa. I have never heard of a business major who was able to do that.</p>
<p>In other words, if your family can afford Michigan or NYU and you were admitted to the business programs, then you should attend one of those because they offer you the best chance of getting a decent job once you go home. However, your situation is that you would need to transfer into the business school. How easy is it to do that? If you never get in, what would you major in? Would a non-business degree be as useful for you at home in terms of name recognition? That is one thing that you need to find out. Fordham Business may be worth more to you than NYU or Michigan with a non-business major. Of Michigan and NYU, take a careful look at all the factors in the estimated Cost of Attendance. I expect that Michigan can work out to be a bit less expensive because it is not located in a place as crazy expensive as New York City.</p>
<p>As for the fencing, don’t worry about the university not having a team. Re-check their websites for a fencing club - or just google fencing club university X. My bet is that you could continue to participate in your sport wherever you end up.</p>
<p>Thanks happymomof1. Still thinking the difference between graduating with a non-business degree from a prestigious school VS business degree from a non prestigious school.</p>
<p>Yes I’ve heard it’s really hard for internationals to find an employer who’ll give working visa. It’s very competitive :/</p>
<p>I doubt you will not enjoy Michigan. So what if the school has pride in its athletic traditions? It does not mean students only care about athletics. In fact, many students couldn’t care less about sports, but those that do still prioritize academics. </p>
<p>Something else to consider is the number of undergrads who come from Malaysia. There are over 100 at Michigan. How many are there at Fordham or Richmond? And how recognized are those two universities in your home country as opposed to Michigan and NYU? I know Michigan and NYU have very strong global brands, but I do not think Fordham and Richmond do.</p>
<p>malaysia, I’m an American that has lived in Asia for 20 years and also a Michigan alumna. I’d say go with Michigan. It’s big enough to encompass many many different personalities and cultures. Ann Arbor is the quintessential American college town. I’m sure you’ll find your group and enjoy your self.</p>
<p>Even though you’ll enter in the liberal arts college, won’t you eventually apply to the business school? (I don’t remember how exactly that works at Michigan.)</p>
<p>Michigan degree will be recognized and valued anywhere in the world. For a person who anticipates a global career the name and network are real assets.</p>
<p>Been reading up on wallstreetoasis, UMich/NYU seems really superior compared to the other two in terms of prestige and wall street recruiting.
Reading up on the last two posts here, I can see your reasons for picking UMich.
However, I find the school to be big (approximately 27k students) and I tend to prefer small classes with interactions with the professors (where they know you by name; I kinda like those little things like that) hence I’m more leaning toward Fordham and URichmond.
I know a degree from either NYU or UMich will be recognized globally (My parents have never heard of Richmond and Fordham until I told them I was applying there) but I still have my doubts. A Urichmond and Fordham degree may not be worth as much as the other two but surely, they are still reputable schools right?
Anyway I would still love to hear more opinions on this matter.</p>
<p>What’s your problem with UMich? If you get admitted to Ross later, that’s gold. It’s hard for any undergrad business program to beat Ross, with the possible exception of Wharton. Ross has a great reputation in the states, meaning that you could find a willing employer sponsor. That’s very high on your priority list, right? Also, nothing wrong with a D1 school. You don’t want to watch sports? Don’t. You don’t want to party? No one drags you there. You want to study all the time? By all mean. But you want that visa, and I just don’t see Richmond or Fordham having that kind of connection. Maybe I am wrong. UMich is large, but it has so many majors that when you come to 3rd year, it’s dwindled down a lot. (Haha, I made this pitch for UMich because I was impressed with their March Madness. See, sports are not bad at all!)</p>
<p>Malaysia, I just don’t know enough about Fordham or Richmond to determine whether they would offer the intimate atmosphere you’re looking for. I know several people who did MBAs at Fordham while working on Wall Street, but I wouldn’t put it in the same undergrad category as UMich or NYU, either in level of academics or name recognition. </p>
<p>I agree that large universities can be impersonal and bureaucratic. My own son chose an small liberal arts college and received an excellent education . . . and a lot of blank stares when he mentions the name in Asia.</p>
<p>It’s a bit too late to consider this, but perhaps you should have applied to some LACs with business or good economics programs. Alternately, if you do well at UMich or NYU, but don’t like the environment, you could transfer after your first year.</p>
<p>You CAN develop close nurturing relationships with professors at large universities; however, you have to be a little more assertive than you would be at an LAC. The mechanisms for support are there; you just have to seek them out. You would have to go into it with a positive attitude to control your situation.</p>
<p>I feel like you guys are talking down fordham alot. @malaysia, look up stuff about the amazing internship opportunities Fordham offers. The good thing about Fordham is that you were already accepted into the Business school. Therefore, you start internships and biz courses your freshman year!! The bad thing about Michigan is you start out in the Liberal arts college and must apply to the biz school. This may be very hard and I can only imagine the acceptance rate amongst all the bright students there (look up that acceptance rate). I’m not saying you can’t do it! I just don’t know you as a person and can’t really say. If you were to get an internship with a large company I’m sure they have international offices in Asia that you can work. Trust me, Fordham will not leave you stranded. Look into it and consider the value of a medium college with great people and acceptance into the biz school already.</p>
<p>@momrath- I did apply to several liberal art colleges (eg:Bowdoin, Carleton) but unfortunately I got rejected And if I’m not mistaken, URichmond is one of the only LACs with a Business program?</p>
<p>@GabelliOrVSB-Point taken, if I attend Fordham I can get in straight to their business school. UMich and NYU’s business program is really intense and competitive I’m not even sure I can get in. I even tried to apply for Villanova’s business school but got rejected; Nova’s program is not as competitive as UMich or NYU’s.</p>
<p>However I can go to NYU and UMich majoring in Econs but is it more attractive than a business degree from Fordham’s?</p>
<p>For me that is a very scary thought. But I feel you should major in what you want to major in! There are so many students that choose that path and it is very typical, I wouldn’t do it. But it’s all up to you. If you want to take a risk, go for it!</p>
And if I’m not mistaken, URichmond is one of the only LACs with a Business program?</p>