Princeton 2019 SCEA Hopefuls Thread

<p>How many of y’all sent an art supplement with your application?</p>

<p>@Frozengogurt I’m in the same boat!! My unweighted GPA is relatively low (3.93) compared to other people who’ve gotten into Princeton from my school (3.95-4.0) and I know I’m definitely not at the very top of my class, despite the fact that my school doesn’t rank. </p>

<p>I hope that after we pass a certain threshold (3.8+, 2250+), the admissions committee won’t even care that much about our objective stats and focus on our subjective info (essays, recommendations, extracurriculars). </p>

<p>@PrincPlease21 I submitted a flute supplement+music resume. In the space where they allowed us to upload any document, I uploaded the scanned first page of my published journal article, so it took up like 440 KB out of the available 500 KB.</p>

<p>@PrincPlease21 I submitted a violin supplement and resume because why not.</p>

<p>@Ambitious19 Yeah…it really sucks. I guess you can’t really compare your GPA to the GPAs of those who got in before though right? Since they also take the highest gpa and stats about grade distribution in your senior class into account. It could just be that for the class of 2015 at your high school, the grades were less inflated or the teachers were harder. I don’t know how much those few Bs would weigh against us, but I’m sure people get in ivies with Bs on their transcripts. It really depends on course rigor as well (esp. if you’re comparing unweighted GPA). You seem very competent as an applicant though (subjective and objective), I’m sure you have a great shot at acceptance. </p>

<p>“I hope that after we pass a certain threshold (3.8+, 2250+), the admissions committee won’t even care that much about our objective stats and focus on our subjective info (essays, recommendations, extracurriculars)”.</p>

<p>I believe this is correct. </p>

<p>Test scores and GPA’s are helpful to give the adcoms a baseline in terms of academic proficiency. The reality is that Princeton academics are HARD. These numbers are used to help them know if you can handle the rigor or not. But the numbers only tell a part of the story. If you score 2400 on your SAT’s and are a 4.0 GPA you might still be turned down in favor of a 2200/3.75 with a different set of EC’s, interests and essays. </p>

<p>Also I see a lot of conversation about weighted vs unweighted GPA’s on this forum. Really, it sounds great to us to talk about but to admissions it probably doesn’t matter. They know if your school is competitive and if you took a rigorous course load and that carries a lot more “weight” =)</p>

<p>Check out this link for last year’s admission statistics. <a href=“http://admission.princeton.edu/applyingforadmission/admission-statistics”>http://admission.princeton.edu/applyingforadmission/admission-statistics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Only 10% of all applicants with a 4.0 GPA are admitted. And only 15% of all applicants in the very top range of SAT’s are offered a spot. This rails against our collective paradigm that perfection (or close) is what ensures success. Wait until you see some of the stats on this forum of those who are deferred/rejected and also some who are accepted. It feels somewhat random and it probably is. But a student who does nothing but study to get perfect marks may not be as appealing to a school like Princeton as one who is actively contributing to something they are passionate about and still getting very good grades and scores. And even many of these are turned away every year. </p>

<p>I would encourage you to try to set your application aside now that it’s submitted and not let the waiting game wreck the next few weeks of your senior year. I remember those days being really tough (probably even more for me than for my son!) but in hindsight I would try to stress less and relax more! If you are the kind of person who’d be a viable consideration for this or any other really selective school, I’m sure you are going to hit the ground running wherever you land. You’re going to do well!!!</p>

<p>@hopefulperson omg i submitted one too for violin! ahhhh I’m so nervous! haha </p>

<p>@PrincPlease21‌ I submitted a violin supplement and rec as wel</p>

<p>I submitted a violin supplement. My violin teacher wrote a rec for me, but I decided not to send it because I didn’t really think it would add much to my application. Hopefully my playing speaks for itself XD </p>

<p>@Ambitious19 @PrincPlease21 @SamusScipio @alliekinz How much of each supplement do you think they listen to? My teacher and accompanist said they’d probably only listen to the first 5 minutes or so. I hope this is true because the last couple of minutes of mine aren’t great :(</p>

<p>@hopefulperson Is this really true? My solo is, from a musical standpoint, a lot more impressive at the end, so I would hope that they listened to my entire recording! But at the same time, I play the flute, so by the end of 15 minutes I was kind of out of breath. LOL my breathing is actually a bit audible near the end of the recording, so maybe it’s a good thing that they don’t listen to the very end!</p>

<p>Also, who evaluates these music supplements? The Princeton University Orchestra conductor? The Department of Music representative? A professor of flute/violin performance? After listening to our recordings, do they recommend us to the admissions committee? Is it like a hook if they do recommend us? </p>

<p>@Ambitious19 My sister is a Princeton alumnus (doesn’t work at the university) and she listened to applicants’ music supplements (don’t know if she still does or if she’s doing so this year. Gulp.) She was a music minor. I’ll ask her more about how it works, but I’m pretty sure they do make some sort of recommendation to the admissions committee. I’m not sure if it’s a hook or not - if it is, probably not nearly as much as URM or athlete.</p>

<p>Edit: Turns out I made a pretty big mistake at ~7:00 but 7:01 to the end is actually fine. I hope they stop listening before then though :P</p>

<p>Any piano people out there? Did you guys strictly abide by the three requirements given? Or did you add any additional pieces as well?</p>

<p>Should I be worried that I haven’t gotten a notification for an interview yet ?</p>

<p>I haven’t gotten a notification for an interview yet, and no one in my school has gotten one either for Princeton SCEA. So don’t worry! Even if you don’t get one, it definitely won’t count against you. Receiving an interview is a random process. Some get it, some don’t. Getting an interview is not a reflection of how good (or how bad) your application is. </p>

<p>When you say being an athlete is a hook, do you mean state/national level athlete or Varsity athlete?</p>

<p>Received my interview invitation today! </p>

<p>As for the arts supplement – heh, I hope they just listen to the beginning :confused: I missed some shifts in the cadenza of one of my pieces and I’d rather not have them hear that.</p>

<p>“When you say being an athlete is a hook, do you mean state/national level athlete or Varsity athlete?” </p>

<p>This refers to athletes that are recruited to play at the NCAA D1 level. The level that those athletes competed at in high school will vary, depending on the sport. Women’s field hockey players (who won the NCAA championship in 2012), for example, would almost certainly have been all-state level at a minimum and several at the national team level, however not all varsity sports at Princeton recruit at that level. If you believe you are accomplished enough to be competitive at the D1 level, it’s worth filling out a recruiting form with the school and the coach will be in touch with you. Most recruiting forms can be found on the schools’ varsity sport websites. </p>

<p>For most sports the recruiting process happens sometime between the athlete’s high school sophomore and junior years, depending on the sport. The NCAA has very strict rules about when, where, how and how often a coach can contact you. For interest I have included this link so you can see how it works
<a href=“Division I and II Recruiting Calendars and Guides - NCAA.org”>Division I and II Recruiting Calendars and Guides - NCAA.org; </p>

<p>@alliekinz Cool! Which state are you from? Maybe they’re sending out interview notifications by state.</p>

<p>And @hopefulperson thanks for the insider info! I didn’t realize that undergrads were the ones listening to our music supplements.</p>

<p>@Ambitious19‌ I’m from Ohio :slight_smile: </p>