<p>I've heard the opposite but then again "This whole argument is simply 'inintelligent' " as you put it =]</p>
<p>EDIT: 600th post on ED Lounge =]</p>
<p>Somebody just stole our Bush yard sign tonight. That's so annoying...I know what's like now, Bokonon...too late for dog poo, though =) heheh</p>
<p>I am "on edge" because of this election..the stakes are so high and the politics are so dirty...they just found that at least 10,000 people are registered to vote in both Ohio and Florida at the same time. When a race could come down to 500 votes, that's obscene.</p>
<p>kebree...no offense but i don't think you're totally right on those bush/kerry education facts.</p>
<p>bush had a C average at Yale (don't know kerry's)
and kerry went to boston college school of law which is very competitive</p>
<p>That's true, but so is Harvard business school...point is, the guy's no dummy and Kerry isn't "way out of his league."</p>
<p>You're right...and Kerry actually scored a higher GPA before he scored a lower one. =)</p>
<p>Aren't people supposed not be numbers?</p>
<p>Yes, randomgr...I agree...but the numbers don't show that Bush is less intelligent than Kerry, and that's all we have to go by. Kerry is a much slicker politician and a better speaker, but it doesn't follow that Bush is sub-average.</p>
<p>I typed various answers and subsequently deleted them... I decided that I don't like politics =]</p>
<p>Encomium: the article I read about the Bush/Kerry GPAs accounted for grade inflation, hence the B-average. Yale used to grade on a bell curve.</p>
<p>I love politics. I don't think I want to go into politics, though...I don't think I'm a great speaker (but then again, neither is George W. Bush).</p>
<p>Bush can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
He sends children to die for an obvious mistake.
Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror.
September 11th happened on his watch.
He skipped out of Vietnam.
He skipped out of skipping out.
He lets religion run his politics.
He'd let a mother die if having a baby would kill her.</p>
<p>What a fine man to have as President.</p>
<p>bush is sub-average :-D. but its makes his speeches so much more entertaining.</p>
<p>Saddam Hussein placed the Iraqi equivalent of a $100,000 bounty on the head of any American fighter pilot shot down over Iraq...this was going on for years before the war. In effect, he had already declared war.</p>
<p>Saddam claimed to have wmd, the MI6 said he had wmd, the Russian intelligence said he had wmd, and the CIA said he had wmd. I would have been more worried about Bush's intelligence if he hadn't gone into Iraq after negotiations failed for the 17th or 18th time. We still do not know for sure that Saddam didn't have the makings of WMD...they found whole airplanes bruied in the desert; it wouldn't be all that difficult to conceal a briefcase of nuclear material.</p>
<p>-We have no reason to believe he skipped out of the national guard...the only allegations/'evidence' for that aired on 60 Minutes, and we all know what happened. He may have shirked--but we don't know, and virtually all supported evidence suggests the contrary.</p>
<p>-Bush never proposed a ban on abortion, only partial-birth abortion. He never said he'd overturn Roe v. Wade.</p>
<p>-A friend in Iraq told me that about 95% of the soldiers he's met are supporting Bush (he's British, so he has no stake in the matter). It doesn't seem like they believe they are in Iraq dying for a mistake. They are there; they should know.</p>
<p>Okay, okay...could not resist...just had to say something, Bokonon. =)
I'll sign out now; no more politics for me at the moment...</p>
<p>I don't deny that Hussein is a bad guy. THERE ARE LOTS OF BAD GUYS. Bad people don't justify wars. Just because some friend in Iraq told you that 95% of the soldiers in Iraq are supporting Bush doesn't make it true. And, soldiers are so brainwashed from the beginning that it wouldn't suprise me. Ignorance feeds social conservatism.</p>
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<li><p>there is a lot of evidence against bush for skipping, including many documents proving that he was AWOL. it wasnt just 60 minutes. </p></li>
<li><p>he stated 4 years ago during his first election that he was pro-life and wished to ban abortion. u know he will. once rheinquist and o'connor leave, he will replace them with 2 uber conservative judges and abortion will be byebye</p></li>
<li><p>that is not true. i know many people in Iraq. its more or less split. most of the soldiers have no idea why they are there. the beginning intention was to "search and destroy the weapons of mass destruction" but since there are none, it is now "to free the slaved people of Iraq". nice how the motive has changed? but it is not true that 95% of the soldiers are for bush. many if not at least half are against him. </p></li>
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<p>hussein does not justify war. kim jong il is much worse than hussein...and north korea actually has nuclear weapons...hmmm.....too bad if we fought them their army would whip us out to the moon lol. thats why we are pickin on hussein</p>
<p>btw...i love how we have so many pages of replies that the numbers jut out into the blue margins lol</p>
<p>Why does every thread have to turn into politics lol? Anyways, just happy to say my application has been sent in!</p>
<p>Congrats to those of you who have gotten the app in...and for those who haven't:</p>
<p>4 hours, 3 minutes, 33 seconds Central time! Get on with it!</p>
<p>Don't you love this polarizing topic? I think I'll try to steer clear of politics after this =)</p>
<p>Just a couple of things, though: I sometimes wonder if we aren't the ones who are brainwashed (by the media, I mean). I don't think our soldiers are ignorant about the administration or unaware of what is happening in Iraq. If anything, they're probably some of the 'most aware'. They certainly have the most at stake, and I have trouble believing they would paint an overly rosy picture of the situation in Iraq. Also, I do know that one soldier's estimate is no scientific poll, but I was surprised that Pres. Bush had such support even if it was only among a group of several hundred. I had thought (based on media reports) that soldiers would resent Pres. Bush.</p>
<p>I think we could go around and around on whether the decision to go into Iraq was a good one based on the knowledge at the time...I'm beginning to think that debate (like the intelligence one) is somewhat fruitless.</p>
<p>How about a "ceasefire"---what say you?</p>
<p>I want to be friends when (and if) we get to Princeton =)</p>
<p>EDIT: shrek: It certainly isn't 95% in the total army, but still:
<a href="http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595098863,00.html%5B/url%5D">http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595098863,00.html</a></p>
<p>Yea so...I love our warm and fuzzy lounge :)</p>
<p>haha, I know...it definitely got out of hand. Doesn't it always, though?</p>
<p>Oh but if only we can have these discussions post-midnight somewhere on the princeton campus...
<em>crosses fingers</em>
it can happen!</p>