Princeton Life

<p>I am going to be a senior in high-school next year, and I am seriously considering Princeton as a top choice of mine.</p>

<p>Things I like about Princeton: the suburban atmosphere and the aesthetic beauty of the campus, the plethora of research opportunities, the amazing pantheon of professors, and being able to say you go to Princeton. </p>

<p>However, I am concerned about a few things. What are the eating clubs like and are they very selective and clique-ish in terms of socialness? I am seriously considering medical school: what is the entrance rate for Princeton grads? I have also heard some things about the molecular biology majors (on the pre-med track) that bother me.
AND CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ADDRESS THE GRADE DEFLATION POLICY (Probably my biggest issue!)</p>

<p>I would really appreciate all the feedback I could get, especially from current Princetonians themselves!</p>

<p>Don’t really know anything about pre-meds because I’m not a pre-med, but by no means should you feel confined to MOL as a major just b/c you are a pre-med. I’ve met pre-meds in all sorts of majors (e.g. anthropology, Italian, art history, etc). </p>

<p>Also don’t have much to say about grade deflation. I’ve generally felt that I get the grades I deserve (that doesn’t mean I necessarily get good grades, just that I deserved the grades I got). </p>

<p>I talk at length about the eating clubs in this thread:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-2013/727333-if-u-go-princeton.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-2013/727333-if-u-go-princeton.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Thanks that really helped!</p>

<p>But can anyone elaborate more on the grade deflation policy? I’ve heard lots of different things about it, like it doesn’t really affect you in math and science courses, but it’s bad in the humanities courses, and stuff like that.</p>

<p>Grade deflation is probably the worst in intro language courses. Some are particularly bad, like Japanese and Chinese, because those are hard languages to begin with, without tacking on a cap on the number of A’s. Plus, you get some native (or at least experienced) speakers sneaking in to classes that are easy for them, hoping for a gut class. This also happens with intro French and Spanish, where many students will “fail” their language placement test to place lower, in order to take it a bit easy. The same exact thing happens to MAT 103 and MAT 104…you get some people who have had Calc AB or BC in high school re-taking it. So, when in those classes the professor is faced with a de facto cap on the number of A’s, it starts getting a little harder to get an A. I have heard that the averages required for an A in a class like Chinese 101 is well into the 90’s, and we’re talking for a seriously hard course (all my friends who take Chinese complain all the time about the work. But don’t get me wrong, our Chinese program is excellent, and well worth the work…you can go to Beijing the summer after freshman year, etc). </p>

<p>Anyway, what I’m getting to is that though grade deflation is noticeable in those classes, you won’t be taking those classes for four years (unless, of course, you are an aspiring polyglot who likes to dabble). But even then, you have to eventually select a concentration, which is probably something you’re good at. For example, I’m an English major. Since I really care about English and literature, I probably do better in my English classes than, say, my physics major friend who is taking a class with me for a distribution requirement. The same goes (alas, it has already happened) when I take a Physics class. </p>

<p>The bottom line: if your GPA has a rocky start, it will probably rise. It’s not the end of the world if you don’t get A’s (it’s Princeton, after all), and if anything a rising GPA is a good thing. It sounds like you’re going to need a good GPA for med school, so you’ll have to be cognizant of things like grade deflation. But I wouldn’t worry too much about it. Honestly, I am kind of secretly a fan of it, because when I get an A (even if it’s just on a paper or a test), I feel really proud of myself. If Princeton professors handed out As like, say, Yale professors, sure, my GPA would probably be higher, but so would everyone else’s. The biggest problem is that employers/grad schools don’t always know about grade deflation, so they see Princeton GPA’s as the same as Yale GPA’s. But the USG and the administration is trying to fix it.</p>

<p>Hope that clears things up for you! Best of luck in applying!</p>

<p>Re: Intro Language courses</p>

<p>Actually what i’ve experienced is the opposite. In intro spanish, for example, there is no “curve”. The standard is 95-100 A 90-94 A- , etc. Therefore I never felt like I was competing with the people in my class but rather just with myself. Also, the teachers want to help you get higher grades since there is no curve.</p>

<p>What about competition? Does the grade deflation inspire competition within the classes?</p>

<p>It could exist, but I’ve still formed study groups with kids in my intro-level Spanish and math courses.</p>

<p>Does anyone know the graduate school/ medical school entrance rates for Princeton grads compared to those from other good Ivies and universities?</p>

<p>As JTCOO7 said, “The biggest problem is that employers/grad schools don’t always know about grade deflation, so they see Princeton GPA’s as the same as Yale GPA’s. But the USG and the administration is trying to fix it.” (Sorry I’m not quite sure how to quote things properly yet)
This is my biggest worry…any comments?</p>

<p>i read somewhere that the med school acceptance rate is 90% which is pretty diesel considering the national average is half of that number.</p>

<p>There’s actually a very easy tool you can use to automatically send a letter from the dean regarding grading policies and the standards that are used to any email address–for hiring purposes or grad school, etc.</p>

<p>Yeah, the medical school acceptance rate is 91%, and from what I gathered at the Princeton Preview, the dean sends a letter with the other required forms explaining the grading policy.</p>

<p>bump…any other thoughts on grade deflation?</p>

<p>What about law school?</p>

<p>Princeton doesn’t have a law, medical, or business school (hence the undergraduate focus).</p>

<p>Oh, wait a second, did you mean what is the law school acceptance rate?</p>

<p>If that was the case, then I’m not sure. I remember reading on Princeton’s website that they didn’t have any figures on law school acceptance rates because of certain complex factors or something like that. If I find the page I saw that on, then I’ll post it on here.</p>