<p>I have done research on the schools and I really like both. One of these schools I am going to apply ED for but I dont know which one casue I like both equally. I know that both are very different schools but is ED easier at one or the other? Also can anyone tell me about the atmosphere of Princeton and its social scene and the kind of people there? Thanks!</p>
<p>I'm fairly certain Brown ED is much easier than Princeton ED.</p>
<p>yeah i've heard that brown ed is much easier. i'm sure there are stats out there somewhere.</p>
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<li><p>What field do you want to study?</p></li>
<li><p>Brown has different emphases in its admissions criteria from Princeton (Brown focuses less on test scores, for instance). I've seen many people denied ED from Brown who go on to be accepted at Princeton and Yale RD, simply because Brown is looking for candidates who really fit.</p></li>
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<p>Princeton and Brown really are different kinds of schools--are you sure you don't fit better into one rather than the other?</p>
<p>....brown. haha. not that i have ever attended brown, but from what i have heard about it/visited, it is rather different from princeton. similarly, im pretty sure admission in general at brown are easier, making its ED much more so (hmm, never seen people dismissed from brown and into pton, usually vice versa.) </p>
<p>There are plenty threads, just go through the pton board back threads and find one on princeton's social scene.</p>
<p>I am planning on majoring in a premed type major and I really like boths schools a ton, while both are completely different. So yeah some type of premed major</p>
<p>Both are great premed schools.</p>
<p>What specifically appeals to you about each one?</p>
<p>Princeton is great because it has competive students, its location, the campus is looks amazing, the professors seems really good, great financial aid. I was just reading about the social scene and I dont know how I feel about.</p>
<p>Brown, I have visisted and I thought it was a beautiful campus, I like the social scene there but it seems maybe a little too liberal, it have a great science program, closer to home, the no class requirments, but Providence is kinds, well, ehh.</p>
<p>Brown = you will not have a job after college. Seriously, you will have an impossible time being hired in competitive industries coming from Brown. The temptation of taking tons of p/f and sitting around all day is overwhelming...</p>
<p>At Brown you can smoke blunts all day while saving the world from evil capitalist dogs, and you do not have to go to class, ever. Whereas at Princeton blunt smoking is restricted to after class. Also Providence is about as boring as it gets, almost as bad as Hanover, marginally better than Ithaca.</p>
<p>Last, but not least, Princeton's science program >>> Brown's science program.
Broadest measure (Affiliation): 29 Princeton Nobels:2 Brown Nobels.
Narrowest measure (Research at University): 10 Princeton Nobels: 1 Brown Nobel. Most of these prizes are in science.</p>
<p>Is brown part of the Ivy League?</p>
<p>Brown is an AWESOME school. Prestige-wise Princeton wins, but Brown is right up there (and much better than its USNEWS ranking suggests). I found the social scene (when visiting probably 7 times) to be less cohesive than Princeton (where more people go to the same places), but very active and more "laid back." As for grad placement and getting a job, it does an awesome job and East Providence is awesome (lots of hip, fun stuff to do and the area is very nice. I would visit both, preferably in the fall so you can better see where you fit.</p>
<p>Providence is about equal to New Haven, if not better as it has more interesting topography and less crime.</p>
<p>Um... Princeton isn't in New Haven. It's in Princeton, NJ.</p>
<p>Bentley, stop being pedantic, its pretty clear columbia2007 is referring to Brown</p>
<p>Eugenie...you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.</p>
<p>" Brown consistently ranks among the top five colleges in the nation in the percentage of its applicants accepted to medical school, and these impressive records are similar in other areas of graduate study.
Of those who apply to law school, 92 to 95 percent are accepted to one of their top three choices; among business school applicants, the figure is nearly 100 percent"</p>
<p>The temptation to sit around all day and smoke joints is only "overwhelming" if you are a lazy undermotivated student who doesn't see the incredible potential in having the opportunity to mold your own education.</p>
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<p>I know, I was just tempted to compare Providence to other Ivy locations. For what it's worth, I can't imagine anyone bored by Providence would be interested in attending school in a small town like Princeton.</p>
<p>Why all of the bashing? Brown is definitely a world-class institution. All of the figures and statistics from previous posts point to that conclusion. Frankly I don't think distribution requirements are really all that necessary, and Brown gives students the freedom to find for themselves what things they will need to study to succeed their direction of interest. I think it imposes a bit of a healthy challenge on the students, unlike the unhealthy challenge of having to deal with a Tetris-like game of squeezing in required and non-required courses.</p>
<p>Ahh the power of numbers. Unfortunately for you those arguments hold no weight.</p>
<p>A. Brown's "acceptance rate" into medical school is grossly inflated by its PLME students, who are students who have been "pre-accepted" into the Brown medical school while in the senior year of high school and thus can be categorized as having a 100% acceptance rate.</p>
<p>There are 5,600 undergraduates at Brown, so 1400 per class year. Based on the response rate to the survey (50%), there are 88 Brown graduates of the class of 2003 who are medical students, so at a 90% acceptance rate of Brown students to medical school (Princeton's acceptance rate, we don't have a medical school or a BA/MD program, probably representative of top 5 as you argue), we would expect there to be ~96 Brown medical school "applicants". </p>
<p>Of those, 50 are PLME students with a 100% acceptance rate based on high school SAT scores, no MCAT, no GPA. That means the remaining 46 students
have a medical school acceptance rate of 79%. That's Brown's dirty little secret when it comes to their Office of Career Services survey and the stats they tout on their website.</p>
<p>That is, Brown falsely characterizes these students as medical school applicants even though they are not, they waltz right through the door (even if they have taken all their science and premed classes pass fail, no medical college admissions test requirement either, how rigorous!).</p>
<p>B. One does not apply to business school while in undergraduate school, so those touting these statistics is little or no reflection upon the quality of the undergrad institution</p>
<p>C. The number one employer of Brown grads is Brown.</p>
<p>D. My dog could get into a law school</p>
<p>E. Roughly 1/6th of the graduating student body is neither employed nor in a graduate program six months after graduation. This is assuming that the responses aren't self-selected in that student who don't have jobs or were rejected by graduate schools respond at the same rate as those who have jobs or are in graduate schools. Unlikely, but for the sake of argument we'll give you the benefit of the doubt. However, if they are self-selected, it paints an even worse picture for Brown.</p>
<p>Also note, that these stats are from an outcome report, which means a postgraduation survey rather than a graduation checkout survey. For an outcome report, these statistics are poor at best.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, if anything, Brown is a severely underrated institution. Princeton is Princeton and Brown is Brown. They both have pros and cons and believe me- what is a pro and what is a con is mostly down to personal preference.</p>
<p>OP- do yourself a favour and take some time and visit both places. Ask around, and try and get the whole vibe of things at both places. They may both be world class institutions and located in the northeast etc ... but they're very different and each is special in its own sense. You need to decide which one (if any) would be a fit for your ambitions, tastes, and most importantly- personality.</p>
<p>Good Luck</p>