Princeton SCEA Class of 2020 Applicant Thread

Should I shoot Princeton an email about my Subject Test Scores, cause I just took them November and its not on my application, but they got it in hard copy. Would they have seen it in time?

Also, this doesn’t pertain to Princeton necessarily, but I did accidentally post my essay for another college on CC. Although I had the post deleted, when I put my essay in a plagiarism detected, it still detects the deleted thread, even though its defunct. Should I just include a message in my application? Do colleges even check for plagiarism, or is it not until they are about to admite you that they check plagiarism and they contact you if they detect it for an explanation?

@anon145 @GoodGrief16 thanks so much for your reply that helps a lot. I will resend the tax docs with the number.

@collegebound1915 and @azwu331 how exactly did you/your counselor send the first quarter reports? Did you email them or fax them or snail mail them, and if email, to what address? Sorry for all the questions. My counselors don’t really know how this works since I’m probably the first person ever to ask them to send first quarter grades. I’d really like to send them though since I had good grades.

I’m thinking she could send them as part of the optional report on the Common App. I’m not sure though since the only grades I get are in August :)>- @meaa7130

Speaking of which, do you guys think it’s okay if my counselor doesn’t send the mid-year or optional report since there haven’t been any updates in my grades? Would it look bad? I made sure that my counselor added that the only grades that go towards my final certificate are the final grades that come out in August.

@VWBeetle Hi there! I was also curious about my Subject Tests because they didn’t appear on the tracking system. About three weeks ago, I sent an email with my CollegeBoard information to the Admissions Office and they had already received my scores. Their response was super quick!

@meaa7130 My counselor faxed my first quarter grades to Princeton. Aside from that, I don’t know anything else since that was all she told me. I think the fax number is (609) 258-6743 (https://admission.princeton.edu/contact-us), but I’m not totally confident about it.

@sugar98 Don’t worry, it won’t look bad. If Princeton really wanted your grades, they would contact your Guidance Counselor. In addition, if grades outside of the final report in August do not count, your GC would have probably noted that fact in the school report she sent to the school.

@meaa7130 Also, if the additional LOR provides new insight into you as a person, I would go ahead and send it. Just don’t flood the officers with additional LORs though, they probably wouldn’t like that. :stuck_out_tongue:

Here’s a pretty good thread that I found: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/1209606-princetons-optional-recommendation-policy.html

@elk1819 Wow, that’s pretty interesting! I can tell by the topics that your essays must be very good. :slight_smile:

My essays are pretty much my only way of standing out in a highly competitive demographic group. I really hope that Princeton sees a bigger picture of me through my essays; the Dean has frequently said that the essays offer the admissions officers “a window into the [applicant’s] world,” so I hope that they place a lot of weight on the essays. Anything can happen though.

My Common App essay was a bit personal; I talked about my difficulties talking at a young age and how, as time went by, I discovered my inner voice through music, art, and writing. The overarching message in this essay was that, through discovering myself, I learned that my ability to speak was not in any way altered by my inability to talk. It was honestly heartfelt and I really liked it.

For the Princeton Supplement, I chose the prompt about the influential person and wrote about the impact my grandfather had on me. In this essay, I focused on how my grandfather fostered my identity and how, through the lessons that he taught me, I realized that he and I were essentially the same person despite the fact that we were from completely different generations. I had this weird structure where I started with an experience I had with my grandfather at a young age and, as the essay progressed, I slowly combined our two selves together until the very end, where I used the same experience at the beginning to finish the essay (although through the perspective of a much older me). I honestly don’t know how to explain it — I was feeling super inspirational the day I wrote this essay in July, and I wrote something that I knew I would never be able to write again. I don’t want to brag about my writing skills, but even as a pretty decent writer, this creation is something that I really treasure; every time I re-read it, I find something new and profound in it that I never noticed before. Hopefully, the officers that read my essay find the same connections that I find; maybe the reason I’m noticing all this stuff is because I am the author, but who knows? I’ll probably reuse this essay for many of my other RD schools, and I’m going to admit it: if I do end up getting in, it will probably be because of this essay (and perhaps my Common App essay). I guess we’ll see.

My engineering essay was probably the weakest of the three, probably because I redid it the week before I sent in my application. In this essay, I used a personal experience to explain my love for economics, and how Princeton’s ORFE program would perfectly blend my interests in math, science, technology, and finance together into something that I would enjoy doing. Compared to the other two, it wasn’t the very best; hopefully, the adcoms will see past it though. I really hope that this weaker essay doesn’t hurt my application in any way since it was optional anyway, but in the secrecy of the admissions office, who can be sure of anything anyway? :slight_smile:

@sugar98 there’s a check box in common app about which reports to send - the counselor suggested we check them all - but if I remember correctly that is only mid year and final year report. And many schools won’t have mid year reports until february so I can’t imagine that matters.

the “optional report” I’m told can only be sent/modified once by a counselor (to all schools) and is more for correcting any errors that may have happened by the school, (or someone else) etc… and are there just in case something unusual happens

as far as early grades I think the only people it would affect are those who took an average of 1 or 2 APs for the the first three years and are now taking 6/7 APs … Not sure why that happens , but I’d imagine and Ad Com or reader who thought this student could be admitted would want to know how someone taking 6 APs as a senior was fairing

@meaa7130 No worries about the questions - I’m happy to help! My school has never had someone admitted to an Ivy, and my counselor is absolutely clueless about most of the college process. I’ve gathered most of my info off this forum, and have actually had to help her with this application process (rather than the other way around). I asked her to email my grades to Princeton and include my full name, common app id, and birthdate. I figured email was the fastest way to get them there, but azwu’s idea to fax sounds just as good. I would say whatever is easier for your GC!

@azwu331 @meaa7130 My GC got an email from a Princeton admission officer today, of which she wouldnt explain the full contents of to me, but she proceeded by following it up by calling Princeton (I believe at their request). She told me that it had to do with sending an extra GC recommendation and an attachement - I was really confused, but she kept insisting that she “felt really good about things” (but with her limited college knowledge, who knows…). Any idea what this means and whether or not it is a good thing?

Does anyone know if decisions are coming out directly on the 15th? Or hopefully sometime sooner?

Hey guys, I have some answers to some of your questions

  1. QuestBridge acceptances are NOT factored into Early Action acceptances. I’m a QB Finalist, but opted out of the college match program so I could apply SCEA to princeton. Anyways, you are specifically requested to send in yoir application “Regular Decision” through QB, so the acceptances are factored in that statistic.

  2. The financial aid email has literally zero correlation with whethr or not you’re going to be accepted. I received the email in October due to being QB (they thought I had mistakenly applied SCEA because I put “Finalist” in my achievements section of the common app), and it was the same type of email, just worded a little differently. I know you all want to read into it more, but you really shouldn’t.

  3. Just a comment, but as I said before, Princeton knew I was a QB finalist because it was in my “Honors” section of my common app, and nowhere else, in October. Because of this, I think that people were already chosen for committee a long, long time ago. Or at least they start reading applications very soon after you submit.

Other than that, good luck everyone! (ALSO, it’s a little funny, because nobody in my county nor the county next to mine received interviews, and I’m from South Jersey! Just a tidbit that you really shouldn’t put too much weight on not getting an interview or not, becase 15+ kids in their state didn’t)

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@azwu331 @meaa7130 My GC got an email from a Princeton admission officer today, of which she wouldnt explain the full contents of to me"

this year was a new counselor common App system for the counselor report. In the past counselors would send in the school report and if they felt like it could actually send a letter later. However, the students would have no way of knowing if that part ever happened.

This year the counselor school report and counselor reference were separated so that schools did not have to sit around waiting for a letter that may or may not come. The problem is at public schools most counselors were not clear that they were supposed to attach the “letter” in the second part which asks a few brief questions.

I’m still not sure if our counselor ever did it correctly. But I’m guessing you’re at a public school at the counselor never sent a reference letter…

sadly private schools have separate counselors just for admissions… who probably do a better job at such things.

@azwu331 @collegebound1915 thanks for the advice! Collegebound, what email did your counselor send it to? Was it just the regular undergrad admissions email? And that’s sounds amazing about having an additional GC recommendation. If anything, you’re still in the race! I think that’s great though. Dang I wish I could have something like that happen so I could stop stressing for the next two weeks…

Also, azwu, would it be too late to send an additional LOR? Since they’re already in committee

@meaa7130 No, you’re fine. The officers just started committee this week and have another week to discuss and kick out more applicants. Even if it is too late, it wouldn’t hurt to send the LOR just in case. The worst that could happen is that they do not end up reading your LOR… which wouldn’t really affect your application in any way. The potential benefits of sending the letter far outweigh the potential costs (which is pretty much nothing, by the way). :slight_smile:

@azwu331 So do you think I should get my recommender to send the email, or should I do it? (I have seen the rec).

@meaa7130 Based on what I’ve read, it would be preferred if you could get your recommender to send the letter to the admissions office (uaoffice@princeton.edu). I’m not really an expert on this though, so I don’t want to give you any bad information… however, if you think that the letter reveals a bit more about you and will help your chances, you should send it. :slight_smile:

(Also, if you can’t get your recommender to send it, it would be perfectly fine if you sent the email instead.)