<p>Are there any differences in job prospects/grad school placements between the schools? The WSJ list says so. I'm concerned that Yale (without grading deflation) has a better post-grad record than Princeton. And although prestige doesn't matter, are they both equally prestigious?</p>
<p>Anybody?? This is important.</p>
<p>They’re both considered to be the “best” of the Ivy schools. Keep in mind, however, that each Ivy school is strong in specific programs while possibly being weak in others. Also, I would imagine there isn’t too much of a difference in job placement or prestige.</p>
<p>At yale law school about 30-33 are from Princeton and abotu 90 are from Yale College. </p>
<p>Obviiously, Yale college graduates get huge preferential treatment. </p>
<p>Columbia web site shows that :
Columbia undergrads also get bonus points from Columbia med law Phd MBA program.</p>
<p>Harvard Yale Columbia Stanford’s Law Med MBA and PhD programs prefer applicants from their own undergraduate school. I don’t think Princeton is a good choice if you want to attent top graduate program</p>
<p>Does jomjom ever die? Creepy…</p>
<p>No, like many characters in myth jomjom is immortal. Despite himself, he performs a valuable service-would you want to be classmates with anyone who was swayed by his posts?</p>
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<p>Actually, the senior thesis required at Princeton provides an advantage to Princeton students because they have had research experience in their field. Additionally, while Columbia and Stanford graduate programs show preference to their own undergraduates, Yale and Harvard do not. They often look to students from other universities because it helps create a diverse student body in their graduate school.</p>
<p>Also keep in mind that Princeton is smaller than the other schools. Not sure if this is the link you’re referring to but here it is: [The</a> Wall Street Journal Classroom Edition](<a href=“http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/college/feederschools.htm]The”>http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/college/feederschools.htm) A bit outdated but the numbers probably haven’t changed much.</p>
<p>[UP</a> CLOSE | Tracing the elite law cycle | Yale Daily News](<a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/apr/18/tracing-the-elite-law-cycle/]UP”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/apr/18/tracing-the-elite-law-cycle/)</p>
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H=Y >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PCS etc…</p>
<p>This is so silly it’s unbelievable. As an Old Blue, there’s nothing I like more than cuffing Princeton around a bit (except perhaps occasionally reminding people that Harvard, great as it is, attracts more than its share of complete jerks). But there is no meaningful difference in prestige or grad school prospects between Yale and Princeton. There may well be fewer Princetonians than Yalies in top law schools, but that more likely reflects Princeton’s top-line Engineering program, which graduates far more students than Yale’s, and they don’t tend to go to law school much, as well as some other non-law-school fields where Princeton gets more than its share of top students, like math and physics.</p>
<p>There are plenty of reasons to choose Yale over Princeton, and probably an equal number to choose Princeton over Yale. But general prestige difference, or respect from top graduate programs and professional schools, are complete non-factors either way.</p>
<p>^ Totally agree. Yale will have a slight advantage though because they have YMS and YLS which Yalies might get some preferential treament.</p>
<p>Another thing to consider is that with Princeton’s senior thesis requirement, every student will have research experience. This is arguably the most important factor in admissions to PhD programs; look at Princeton’s track record in placing people in PhD programs, it’s pretty amazing.</p>
<p>In addition to YanksDolphins comment, these posts are only looking at Medical school and law school admissions. You are ignoring all admissions to Masters and PhD programs.</p>
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Yes, Yale college students get huge preferential treatment from Yale’s graduate and professional schools. </p>
<p>Harvard Yale Columbia Stanford undergraduate also get preferential treatment from their graduate schools.</p>
<p>I am sure that Princeton’s med, law, business school, and small PhD program prefer Princeton undergrads.</p>
<p>To the OP and anyone else reading this thread, just case you were taking chemi111 seriously, just read the last sentence in the above post.</p>
<p>High-quality PhD programs prefer not to have people from their respective undergraduate institutions in order to prevent “educational inbreeding,” actually.</p>
<p>I second FightTheTide11 - PhD programs generally will not admit their own school’s undergraduate students (except in special circumstances). Grade deflation will not make a difference at all for graduate schools. Graduate school admissions are much more about the recommendations you get and the research you have done. Also, the people who make the admission decisions for grad school are professors, and they know all about Princeton. </p>
<p>I don’t know as much about professional schools (law, medicine, etc), and it’s possible it would make a slight difference in that case.</p>
<p>If you want to go to law school, don’t choose Princeton. If you want a great education, choose Princeton.</p>
<p>Can you people stop being silly for a few days? There is absolutely no reason not to go to Princeton if you want to be a lawyer. The world is full of Princeton alums with JDs; the head of my firm (and effectively my boss, if nominally my partner) is one, and so are a number of other good friends. Sure, Yale Law School takes a disproportionate number of Yale grads, and Harvard takes a disproportionate number of Harvard grads, etc. But that in and of itself doesn’t expand the number of Yale or Harvard grads with the credentials for top law schools. It just shifts them around; it means there may be proportionately more Princeton grads than Yale grads at Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Michigan, etc. (And by “proportionately more” I mean proportionately to people who apply, not to undergraduate headcount. Remember, for many people Princeton means engineering. Princeton’s classes are a little smaller than Yale’s and a lot smaller than Harvard’s, and it graduates more than twice as many engineers as Harvard and Yale combined.)</p>
<p>By the way, I think it’s not entirely accurate to say that universities disfavor accepting their own undergraduates into PhD programs. It varies department-by-department, but my anecdotal sense is that rhetoric and reality are somewhat different, and that any university’s PhD programs will be somewhat overpopulated, statistically, with its own undergraduate alumni. I have never seen any statistics on this, though.</p>
<p>I am sure that Yale graduate school of creationists perfers Yale graduates, too.</p>