<p>I know there are a decent number of us transfering and planning on law school and I've had this list for awhile so I thought I'd make it public. It's the percentage of students from each school that ended up enrolling at HLS or YLS. Unfortunately most of the other T14 don't make that sort of data available. I've split it into three categories and for brevity's sake I've only posted the top 40 per category.</p>
<p>HLS Placement:</p>
<p>Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
Princeton
Amherst
Brown
Dartmouth
Williams
Swarthmore
Rice
Duke
Upenn
Pomona
Georgetown
Brandeis
Cornell
MIT
Berkeley
Middlebury
Chicago
Claremont Mckenna
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Caltech
Barnard
Washington & Lee
Emory
Vanderbilt
UCLA
Carleton
Wesleyan
Wellesley
WashU
Haverford
Bowdoin
Tufts
Smith
Case Western</p>
<p>YLS Placement:</p>
<p>Yale
Harvard
Princeton
Stanford
Williams
Amherst
Columbia
Swarthmore
Dartmouth
Brown
Wesleyan
Duke
Claremont Mckenna
Chicago
Barnard
Pomona
Brandeis
Georgetown
Berkeley
Middlebury
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Haverford
Rice
Oberlin
Yeshiva
Virginia
Upenn
Grinnell
Emory
William & Mary
Washington & Lee
Bowdoin
WashU
MIT
Carleton
Vanderbilt
Cornell
USC</p>
<p>Overall:</p>
<p>Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Princeton
Amherst
Columbia
Williams
Brown
Dartmouth
Swarthmore
Duke
Pomona
Rice
Upenn
Georgetown
Brandeis
Claremont Mckenna
Wesleyan
Cornell
Chicago
Berkeley
MIT
Barnard
Middlebury
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Washington & Lee
Emory
Vanderbilt
Carleton
UCLA
Haverford
Caltech
WashU
Wellesley
Bowdoin
Virginia
Grinnell
Tufts</p>
<p>It's interesting, but I think most of it doesn't correlate to where one should go. LS is a #'s game, LSAT + GPA get you in...just happens to be that these students score higher on them.</p>
<p>Exactly. It's only interesting, but you shouldn't base where you wanna go off of this. </p>
<p>Things that caught my eye: Georgetown has really high placement into Harvard, several top LACs (including Bowdoin, Wellesley) have low overall placement, meaning they're going somewhere else or getting rejected a lot, Wesleyan has very high placement for Yale (could be due to proximity), Rice has great placement overall, WashU's is lower than I expected.</p>
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Maybe it has to do w/ gtown having more students then the LAC's?
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<p>Nope. All numbers have been adjusted to reflect class size; that is, I used the graduating class size and took the number enrolled at HLS and YLS for each school. Georgetown, for instance, sent 32 students to HLS and 7 to Yale out of an avg. class of 1606 which means (32/1606) = 1.99% went to HLS and 0.44% went to Yale. Compare that to a top LAC like Bowdoin with a class size of 474 that sent 3 to Harvard and 1 to Yale (0.63% and 0.21% respectively) and you'll find that even given Georgetown's considerably larger class size, it sends more students to the top 2 law schools.</p>
<p>I hear Cornell's ILR program does well with sending students to law schools, but overall Cornell sent 45 to HLS and 6 YLS. You may be able to get specific information if you're a student at ILR from their pre-law office.</p>
<p>I'm by no means an expert, but what if it was because these students from these LAC's arent applying to Law Schools? What I mean is if 3 or 4 (a small number) of students decided to apply (and enroll) in Y/HLS from Bowdoin it would have made a pretty big difference due to Bowdoin's class size.</p>
<p>that could be the case, but it would seem really strange. It almost goes without saying that a considerable portion of the students at top LACs are planning on professional or graduate schools, if due to nothing more than return on investment. So there are only a couple possibilities:</p>
<p>1) At Bowdoin, Wellesley, Haverford, Carleton, etc. (all top 10 LACs) the students are applying almost exclusively to medical/business/graduate school and not law school.</p>
<p>2) At those same schools students are just not at all interested in Harvard and Yale law - doubtful</p>
<p>3) At those schools students are not successful in gaining admission to HLS or YLS. </p>
<p>I'm not sure which the answer is and one can draw his own conclusions, but it is data nonetheless. Of course, a good disclaimer is that some schools should obviously have a smaller (or no) representation at top law schools (tech schools such as Harvey Mudd, MIT, Caltech) while some schools are known for sending students to graduate school and not nearly as many to law (Grinnell, Reed, etc.)</p>
<p>JHU is not in the top 40 for any of those categories. As for data, JHU had a class size of 1207 and had 3 enroll at HLS and 2 at YLS. WashU has a class size of 1470 and sent 10 to HLS and 3 to YLS. I imagine JHU's law school placement is actually similar but that JHU students are primarily focused on med school. WashU is also known for pre-med but it is a bit more diverse in its student body and reputation. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the only way to most accurately determine a school's law placement is to check with that school's pre-law dept. and find out how many actually applied to a school and how many were accepted. It is impossible to do that for most schools unless you are a student there.</p>
<p>I haven't gathered data for business or med schools though I'm sure some of it is available out there.</p>
<p>I don't really like those WSJ rankings as they have a lot of flaws, including method of gathering data, choice of "top 5" schools for each category, and the fact that they mislead people into thinking this is the placement of a school when in actuality things vary: some (in fact many) people don't apply to grad/prof school until after being out of school for a couple of years and yet this only looks at one year. It should be done over a span of several.</p>
<p>In 2005, amongst others, here are some of the outstanding law schools Hopkins students were admitted to: Chicago (4), Columbia (5), Cornell (3), Duke (9), Emory (8), Fordham (19), Georgetown (14), Harvard (3), Michigan<br>
(10), NYU (9), Northwestern (7), Penn (6), UCLA (4), Virginia (9), Boston U (16), Boston College (7), Stanford (2)...etc.</p>
<p>I have heard that in 2006, grads went to the same as above, adding Yale to the list. But look at the above website for completely accurate info.
BTW, class size at Hopkins is approximately 1150.</p>
<p>Gabriellah - I have no doubt that JHU places students into great law schools and I would like to be able to find representation at those top schools that you've listed. However, it seems only HLS and YLS (as well as Virginia and Gtown) make their undergrad representation available, and I just happened to choose HLS and YLS, which JHU does not place too many students into.</p>
<p>guys can someone please clear up the initials and abbreviations that have been used in this thread... hls... yls... sc2... and so many other ones...</p>