PSAT 2010 Wednesday Writing Discussion

<p>^yes, it should be ensured or assured, not insured.</p>

<p>So has there been a general consensus on:</p>

<p>-The “best known” question
-The “it turned out” question (paragraph improvement)</p>

<p>^It turned out is correct.</p>

<p>don’t know about the best know/Japanese actress question. some people say best know, others say error</p>

<p>The question about the Japanese actress is definitely No Error.</p>

<p>The question about the Japanese actress is definitely “best.”</p>

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<p>You are definitely wrong; “best.” was definitely not a choice, and English rules for period and comma placement near quotation marks are definitely illogical.</p>

<p>^I think that the rule is that punctuation goes inside the quotation marks. So apn00b is probably saying that “best known” is the correct answer (though I hope it isn’t).</p>

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<p>I realize that, but I think the rule is illogical and should be changed. I was trying to express that in my post, but I seem to have failed.</p>

<p>On another note, the answer was “No Error”, and anyone who thinks otherwise is trying to decide between better and best in a situation where that decision is unnecessary. In other words, they’ve spent too much time trying to make their thinking conform to ETS’s rules. And yes, “they” is a better gender-neutral singular third-person pronoun than “he or she”.</p>

<p>I am amazed in everyone’s ability to remember the questions…my memory has gotten very fuzzy…however
I clearly remember the “firefighters” question has “each of them” which is singular…so I said that “each of them decided to become a firefighter” or whatever it was to be singular.
I also chose “best” but the debate about that has been continuing and it probably will not end until we all get our test results</p>

<p>Honestly, I think the question with “best known” could go either way. I’m interested to see what Silverturtle would say and what the correct answer really is.</p>

<p>the answer is E</p>

<p>its already been proven. The NY times used a sentence just like it about the same author.</p>

<p>^^^FINALLY! Someone agrees with me on the firefighter question. To everyone who put “volunteer firefighters”, that’s wrong. Since the subject of the sentence was each, the object had to match that, so a volunteer firefighter is correct. Since “of them” is a prep phrase, it can be omitted without really affecting the meaning of the sentence. Every post about the firegfighter question before the post three posts above said the answer was “volunteer firefighters”…wrong. And for the Japanese question, it was No Error. Also, may someone explain that really weird question about the jurors with the “were to have been told” underlined or something like that? Thanks.</p>

<p>On the jurors question, I’m fairly certain “were they to be told” was the correct answer. I eliminated the other answers and was left with that. I’m not exactly sure what the reasoning is, but I read something about it when I was going over the spark notes seven deadly screw-ups.</p>

<p>“The NY times used a sentence just like it about the same author.”</p>

<p>Just so you know, there are two types of grammar - descriptive (as it is used by people) and prescriptive (defined by a set of rules, otherwise known as proper grammar). Newspapers might use descriptive over prescriptive because it sits better with their audience. Both forms are acceptable, but the SATs focus on prescriptive grammar.</p>

<p>That doesn’t mean “better known” is correct; it simply means we shouldn’t rely on newspapers for this answer.</p>

<p>Hey for the paragraphs thing
Was it “on the other hand” or "it turned out:</p>

<p>As a student journalist and newspaper fan, I agree with littlepenguin. Journalistic writing is, for a lack of better words, more colloquial and conversational than expository. Granted it isn’t exactly a facebook chat conversation, but it is not necessarily grammatically perfect. It’s written for the readers.</p>

<p>What was the letter to the answer about the question for the feline habit?</p>

<p>Is saying:</p>

<p>The feline habit of sharpening its claws on trees make it a strong survivor.</p>

<p>Correct? Because does the feline habit imply that “it” is a feline?</p>

<p>Also, the juror question was “were to be told”, because “If they had been told” would need a then on the other side, right?</p>

<p>The feline question is not correct as is; the “it” refers to the habit itself. Sharpening claws on a tree will not make a habit stronger, so you needed a choice that said that the habit would make a feline a strong survivor.</p>

<p>And the juror question was either “Were they to be told” (I chose this one) or “If they would have been told” (past conditional).</p>

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But doesn’t if always go with then?</p>