**PSAT Discussion Thread 2015**

More helpful would be to take one of the redesigned practice SAT’s.

There is only one official PSAT available.
Here are some suggestions for additional Redesigned PSAT practice:

  1. Official Redesigned SAT without the essay.
  2. Additional practice questions on the CB website.
  3. For writing/Language: ACT writing sections
  4. For reading: old SAT/PSAT CR sections without the sentence completions
  5. For math: there are some questions from old PSAT, old SAT, Math Level 1, Math Level 2, and ACT that are similar to the Official Redesigned PSAT questions that have been released, but you have to pick them out one at a time.
  6. Some math question types are have been newly invented just for this test.
    You can clone these questions by changing the numbers in the released official questions.
  7. If weak in non-calculator math, do math questions first without a calculator then with a calculator.

How much is everyone getting on the Practice Test by CB ?

@Plotinus, you are so helpful!

PSAT Tests by Ivy Global are also useful.

DS (jr) took a subject test last June, PSAT last week, will take ACT in January and will start studying for them after Thanksgiving. He’s taking a study break for November. Then new SAT in March or April and last subject test in June. If he needs any repeats he can take them in October. This worked for DD, who is currently a happy sophomore at her first choice college. She hardly studied at all but DS is not a natural test taker and doesn’t mind practicing regularly. He’s just using the standard study books, nothing fancy.

I gave 2 practice tests

Got ‘44 and 40’ out of 47 in CR.Is this good or do I need to improve ?

  1. There is no CR on the redesigned test.
    Reading, Writing and Language together get one scaled score. You have to consider your writing/language score together with your reading score.

  2. There is no such thing as “good” on the SAT, only “good for university x, given what is or will be in the rest of my application (GPA, essays, recommendations, etc.)”

  3. The scoring curves for the redesigned tests have not yet been finalized. No one knows yet exactly how to convert raw to scaled scores.

  4. Some people thought the reading on the October 14 PSAT was harder than the reading on the released official practice test.

  5. There is only 1 official PSAT practice test. If you are using non-official practice tests, these are probably less similar to the real test than are the official tests released by CB.

@Plotinus CB has released the scaled conversion charts for the the released practice test
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/scoring-psat-nmsqt-practice-test-1.pdf

@3scoutsmon
The released curves for the released practice tests, which are not real tests. The released curves are based on small samples of high school students and are not the final curves that will apply to the real tests. The real tests will be administered to a much larger population and the final curves will be based on the performance of these larger populations.

@Plotinus post #208 was asking about practice tests same poster asked about practice tests earlier in this thread too.

@3scoutsmom

I took this to be a question about what the OP should expect to score on the real test without further practice. Maybe I misinterpreted the question.

We can hope that the real curves will be similar to the practice test curves, but it is hard to know exactly how similar.

I want to know how other forumers are doing on the practice tests !

@cfcsjmishra, you should be able to convert those raw scores on the Reading and Writing test to the scaling provided by CB. At this point it’s going to be your best indicator of relative performance. But even more helpful would be to take a look at what you got wrong and use the Answer Guide to figure out how you should have answered the questions. Focusing on your mistakes is the best way to improve. You want to shoot for answering as many questions correctly as you can.

@cfcsjmishra here’s the break down of my sons’ practice PSAT tests both raw and converted:

S18
Reading raw 44 out of 47 scaled 37
Writing raw 43 out of 44 scaled 37

Math raw 47 out of 48 scaled 760

total score 1500
score index 224

S20
Reading raw 36 out of 47 scaled 31
Writing raw 38 out of 44 scaled 33

Math raw 34 out of 48 scaled 640

total score 1280
score index 192

It will be interesting to see how their practice tests compare to the real test. S18 thought he did about the same on the real test and S20 said he felt he did better.

Took my PSAT today.Apart from 2 passages of the reading section,the paper was really easy.

I found the first reading passage about the author to be difficult and I think I messed some of the questions about that one up. Also I was stumped on the second to last grid in and I left one grid in on the no calculator part blank, I think number 16? Not sure if I did well enough for National Merit.

I think I got all the math right on today’s test. Reading was perhaps -3,-4, and writing was -1 or -2. We’ll see, though. :slight_smile:

First reading passage was tough.

I’m confused - were there two PSATs offered this year?

A lot of kids in my state took the PSAT on October 14