**PSAT Discussion Thread 2015**

New thumb nail pic just for this thread!

Great idea for New Years Eve: A bag of Jiffy Pop. And the next day just fill it with ice :slight_smile:

Last year as a sophomore my son received the Stanford letter and some others. This year we haven’t received any mailings but I think it could be because the information on his PSAT form wasn’t correct. He has difficult to read handwriting and they used the wrong email address for one. He changed high schools as well. We have rectified this with College Board but are wondering if the lack of mailings is due to input errors on the contact info or if his performance was worse which I find hard to believe. Are people receiving mail from regular colleges such as their local state schools or less selective schools? We haven’t received a single piece of mail from any college etc.

BTW, we’re in Texas.

@mg2isaboss99

Still getting mail from less selective schools, but at a slower pace, so probably just left overs from sophomore year.

Also getting mail from art schools, we think this is because she entered the Young Arts competition for writing. It seems like the college board is not the only place that is selling our kids names.

According to the Collegeboard Customer Service, the scores have NOT been released yet to colleges and scholorship organizations. HOWEVER, if you did check yes for the student search box, your information was given out.

@USPanther
“According to the Collegeboard Customer Service, the scores have NOT been released yet to colleges and scholorship organizations”

PSAT scores are never released to colleges. Did CB Customer Service really say the 2015 PSAT “have not yet been released to colleges”?

Did you ask whether Telluride Association is considered a “scholarship organization”? That is, did Customer Service specifically say that no organization, including Telluride Association, has received the 2015 PSAT scores?

Yes, @Plotinus , the Steve Harvey reference was in regards to him crowning the wrong girl Miss Universe, thus spawning endless hilarious memes. (my favorite was the Steve Harvey Announces Winner of the Westminster Dog Show and it’s a picture of a cat).

At this point I’m curious to see what happens to this thread when the scores come out-if they’re at all odd, it’s going to be epic…

Well, more epic. 64 pages is ludicrous already.

we should start a new thread for actual results -when the time comes (Jan 7th)

Yeah, one that also says which emails we got. So we can see whether there is a correlation that implicates CB.

Once we actually get the scores, the next big question is going to be, what scores are ‘good enough’. I predict much confusion over scores and “selection index”

We’ll all just ball up our tinfoil hats and more on…

I’m very curious about how the whole “enhanced score report” is going to play out.

@3scoutsmom, is that a ice pack in foil on your little puppy? Puppy partied too hard…

Ah, you noticed the glass of wine by the puppy’s paw? No ice pack yet (though we may need one on the 7th) just a tin foil hat (plus candy cane) for now;-)

@Plotinus yes I specifically asked about the Telluride Association and they said they did not release scores to them

January 7 will be very interesting, although not conclusive. The new score report is supposed to be “enhanced,” and the old PSAT score reports had some useful tidbits, like percentile ranks and extrapolated subscores. Also, it will provide new information about the new SAT. I am very interested to see what other people got and speculate about NM, both online and in real life. September is still a long ways away though.

The numbers for NM never seem to budge much from year to year.

Do you suppose the CB can actually manage any meaningful enhancements at this time, so beleaguered they seem to be? Where you found ‘useful tidbits’ before, is there a certain type of information you are hoping is now made available when the score report is in hand?

@Waiting2exhale I don’t know if you’ve already seen the sample score report, but here is a link: https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/sample-psat-nmsqt-score-report.pdf

If the real score reports follow this model, there will be some information on specific weak points in the subsections which will be valuable info going into the new SAT. Of course, these subscores may not end up existing since CB is having so much trouble with the “expanded scoring.” Personally, I’m most interested to see the Khan Academy personalized instruction for the new SAT based on PSAT results.

While it is true that NM cutoffs don’t change a lot year to year, this year the selection index is being calculated differently and on a different scale. That means while some guesses can be made about possible cutoffs, it won’t be a simple matter of using last year’s cutoffs with a slight margin of error.

@foliontai:

I have to say, there is no way we are going to fine-tooth comb through all of that in my house. It looks a lot like state education testing results, as well as the pre-test for the ACT (called the PLAN), until one gets to the final two pages of ‘Your Question-Level Feedback’.

My student and her siblings may fine-tooth it, but as we pretty much already know her study and retention patterns, and where she tends to test well and not so well, we will look to confirm her overall performance in the standard content areas and go from there.

I perfectly understand that for students this is a font of information, which may well offer up guidance.

Thanks for the information.

Thank you to Studious99 for some earlier links as well, which were replicated in a later post, which I did acknowledge.

@foliontai

Thanks for the link.

So, the new range is 48 to 228 and old range was 20 to 240?

So, I think we can use a formula like this to determine approximately what score might be needed to make nmsf.

NewValue = (((OldValue - OldMin) * (NewMax - NewMin)) / (OldMax - OldMin)) + NewMin
from this link
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/929103/convert-a-number-range-to-another-range-maintaining-ratio

Based on this I am guessing the cutoff for my state which was 215 in past years will be 208 this year.

@USPanther
Thanks for that information. According to the report of CB that scores have not been released to TA, and the report of TA that invitations were sent out based on sophomore PSAT scores, we should find that students with
low 2014 sophomore PSAT scores but high 2015 junior PSAT scores did not receive TASP invitations.

There should be quite a few students in this category. it is not uncommon for students to see a large increase from sophomore to junior year, because many students do not bother to prepare for sophomore PSAT’s.

Similarly, students with very high sophomore PSAT scores but not so high junior PSAT scores should have received invitations. This situation is less common, but it could be a little more likely this year since the format has changed in a way that some students may not like.

The reports from students up until now do not show this kind of correlation between sophomore PSAT scores and TASP invitations. Non-URG’s with sophomore 170, 180, 185 have reported receiving TASP invitations, whereas people with sophomore PSAT’s well over 200 have reported not receiving TASP invitations. In addition, I would assume that many, many students with scores around 180 who did not report anything did not receive TASP invitations.

This suggests that either TA used a strange selection algorithm for this year’s TASP invitations, or that CB really did release the 2015 scores to TA. The junior PSAT scores should provide more evidence one way or the other.