<p>got mine back too i think i did okay compared to normal people like me. but compared to smart-asses and geniuses. it's horrible.</p>
<p>in the 50's pretty much hope to do better on the SAT's though</p>
<p>ps.i didn't study for it or take prep classes like some people did ;)</p>
<p>It doesn't "reduce" your score, per se, but you don't get the points for it. Say there's 48 questions, you would get a max of 46 raw if you omit 2.</p>
<p>It looks like the division between 99 percentile and 98% percentile is around index 214 or 215 (anyone know). Also, does anyone know what the division between 99 and 98 was in previous years. This may help determine where some states' cutoffs will be (I know that this theory many not apply to the high cutoff states).</p>
<p>Also, does anyone know each state lists how many of its juniors took the PSAT this year. GC says each state gets a percentage of that number to be semi f.</p>
<p>Which colleges offer the best scholarships (and perhaps including room and board) to NMSF? </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>for those that are interested, curves and percentiles have been officially released by CB:
<a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/counselors/psat/understandingScores.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/counselors/psat/understandingScores.pdf</a></p>
<p>I got a 221 in Washington, DC, which has been the cutoff here for a few years, right? Does that mean it'll move up and I'm screwed?</p>
<p>Ooh, it's another DC kid. Welcome to CC! :)</p>
<p>jlauer95,
Here is a site where someone compiled schools that offer full scholarships for NM finalists:
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/l_j/secondhome/National_Merit.html%5B/url%5D">http://homepage.mac.com/l_j/secondhome/National_Merit.html</a>
As far as state semi-final cutoffs, on pg 28 of this thread there is a list of the state cutoffs for the past 2 years. The cutoffs for the 2005 test will not be out until sometime this spring I believe. However, they don't change much from year to year, perhaps a point or two at the most.</p>
<p>Yes, I know about the past years' cut-off list and the fact that the cutoff only go up or down a point or two (and will be announced in Sept.). My son is only one point above last year's cutoff for our state so a two point change upward will take him out. The reason for my above post was to find out the percentage of students per state that determines cutoff. I also need the number of how many juniors took the test for each state last fall. From those numbers, it may be easy to tell what the cutoffs will be (or if they will change). </p>
<p>Again, the states that have an unusually high number of students scoring 215 and above will have the cut off so high that not every student that scores in the top 99% (determined nationally) will make the cutoff.</p>
<p>My question is really what is the percentage per state? (It is a country-wide number.) Are the top 1% of each state named semi-finalists (and therefore if the top 1% in Arkansas scored as low as 205 then that will be that state's cutoff.) </p>
<p>I did read somewhere that it is expected that the semi-finalists will be "female heavy" because changes made to the test in the Critical Reading are biased towards girls. Does anyone know where the past male/female breakdowns are listed?</p>
<p>My D just received her PSAT scores. We live in Washington State and I am trying to figure out where she stands in the state. She probably will not make the cutoff for NM, but I am wondering about the National Hispanic cutoff. Here are here scores:
CR63, M63, WS67 for 193 Selection Index and 93 Percentile.
Does anyone know about Washington state cutoffs for National Hispanic Scholars in previous years? I think she is border line for this...</p>
<p>MotherMoo,
Here is a link to a discussion about NHRP from the CC Fin Aid & Scholarship forum. It seems the cutoffs are not posted like for NMS, but this should give you some idea of the range. Hope this helps.
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=99471&highlight=hispanic%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=99471&highlight=hispanic</a></p>
<p>jlauer95,
Sorry if I didn't interpret your question correctly. Try this link on College Board for previous PSAT stats by state, it's the only thing that I've seen:
<a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/researchdocs/2004_psat.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegeboard.com/researchdocs/2004_psat.html</a></p>
<p>entomom: Thanks! That is the kind of thing I'm looking for -- but need it for the 2005 PSAT. The info on the website has 2004 and prior. Once they post the 2005 info, that will probably be helpful in figuring out possible cutoffs.</p>
<p>So if you are a semifinalist, you automatically get scholarship money? Or how does this work? How about commended?</p>
<p>DownOnYou: DC cutoff was 222 the last two years, not 221 (see lderochi's post #558 below). You have to hope it moves down one to make NMS.</p>
<p>entomom: State NMS cutoffs are typically not released until September of senior year, not spring of junior year. Per over30's post #236 below, see <a href="http://www.gustavus.edu/admission/experience/merit-timetable.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://www.gustavus.edu/admission/experience/merit-timetable.cfm</a> for details of the whole schedule.</p>
<p>jlauer95: State cutoffs don't "only go up or down a point or two". Last year twenty-seven states did move 1 or 2 (three of them down), but ten states moved up 3, and two (ID and UT) went up 4! Average move one way or the other was 1.51 points, average move overall was +1.36. Again, see lderochi's post #558 below for the data.</p>
<p>jlauer95: It's not completely clear to me that the % per state is a country-wide number (the commended cut-off is, of course). Again using data from lderochi's post #558 below, the % of commendeds who get named NMS ranges from 92%-88% in WV/AR/MS to only 18%-17% in CT/NJ/MA/MD, respectively. Could overall scores in those first 3 states really be so much lower than those in the last 4 states that grabbing the top X% really moves the conversion %s that much? I guess they could be...</p>
<p>rlvj I was told by our GC that each state gets a percentage of the total number of junior PSAT test takers. This yields a proportional number per state. That makes sense and explains how some states end up with such high cutoffs and how some states end up with such low cutoffs. The percentages are supposed to be the same but there may be differences to the tenth or hundredths place: Such as top 1% of one state, top 1.11% of another. </p>
<p>Also, I know that a few states did have a +or- 4 pt change. I was talking in generalities (which your +1.35 indicates). Idaho and Utah obviously had a lot more students have higher scores than the previous year which meant that they met their "allowed percentage" (say, top 1%) faster -- causing their cutoffs to rise. The greater number high scoring students a state has, the higher the cutoff. Some states have to go as low as 206 in order to get their "allowed percentage" of NMSF</p>
<p>PatrickK - If you are a semifinalist, you will start receiving mail from colleges offering fabulous scholarship IF you are named finalist and IF you name that school as your first choice (which you have until May of your senior year to do) and IF you are accepted for admission.</p>
<p>hey will 218 be enough to make semi-final for California?</p>
<p>What Percent of Semi-finalists will become finalists? Also, what do you have to do to become one?</p>
<p>There are approximately 16,000 semifinalists. 15,000 will be named finalist.</p>