<p>Are there any Public Schools that are looking to expand their base of OOS Students and, as a result, admission standards are equivalent or less than for in-state students?</p>
<p>While it is hard to know exactly how admissions policies will change this year for state universities, it is clear that many will want to admit higher numbers of qualified OOS students if that can bolster the U’s financial status. Counteracting this will be IS partisan pressures to keep more spaces available to tax-paying IS students/families.</p>
<p>Below are some comparisons of State Us ranked among USNWR Top 25 Public National Universities. I think it is clear that many of the Midwestern State Us have a well-established history of attracting and enrolling large numbers of OOS students. I think it is equally clear that the California UCs and places like U Texas, Texas A&M, and U Florida aren’t the easiest places to access for OOS students. Given the budget pressures in all of these locales it will be interesting to see if these low OOS numbers will rise.</p>
<h1>of OOS students , % OOS , U grad , School</h1>
<p>9798 , 32% , 30618 , U Wisconsin
8836 , 24% , 36815 , Penn State
8719 , 27% , 32294 , U Minnesota
8347 , 32% , 26083 , U Michigan
5937 , 23% , 25813 , U Maryland</p>
<p>4313 , 11% , 39209 , Ohio State
4281 , 30% , 14270 , Clemson
4222 , 28% , 15078 , U Virginia
3714 , 13% , 28570 , U Washington
3644 , 29% , 12565 , Georgia Tech
2997 , 17% , 17628 , U North Carolina
2925 , 17% , 17208 , U Pittsburgh
2787 , 11% , 25335 , U Georgia
2464 , 10% , 24636 , UC Berkeley
2163 , 7% , 30895 , U Illinois</p>
<p>1878 , 7% , 26829 , Rutgers
1873 , 5% , 37459 , U Texas
1796 , 31% , 5792 , W&M
1494 , 4% , 37357 , Texas A&M
1408 , 4% , 35189 , U Florida</p>
<p>1037 , 4% , 25928 , UCLA
737 , 4% , 18415 , UC Santa Barbara
661 , 3% , 22048 , UCSD
470 , 2% , 23499 , UC Davis
434 , 2% , 21696 , UC Irvine</p>
<p>If you are looking for a State U to attend as an OOS student, you might want to think about how hard it is to get in and how high their yield is, particularly for OOS students. The info shown below is for ALL applicants so take this with a major grain of salt as OOS acceptance rates are likely to be much lower. Counterbalancing this is that OOS yields will also commonly be much lower than IS yields.</p>
<p>Acceptance Rate , Yield , State U</p>
<p>76% , 56% , Texas A&M
71% , 45% , U Illinois
65% , 46% , U Washington
63% , 43% , Georgia Tech</p>
<p>59% , 49% , Ohio State
59% , 24% , UC Davis
57% , 36% , U Minnesota
56% , 43% , U Wisconsin
56% , 35% , Rutgers
56% , 32% , U Pittsburgh
56% , 22% , UC Irvine
54% , 51% , U Georgia
54% , 19% , UC Santa Barbara
51% , 54% , U Texas
51% , 32% , Penn State
50% , 43% , U Michigan
50% , 39% , Clemson</p>
<p>47% , 37% , U Maryland
43% , 22% , UCSD
42% , 63% , U Florida</p>
<p>35% , 56% , U North Carolina
35% , 52% , U Virginia
34% , 37% , W&M</p>
<p>24% , 38% , UCLA
23% , 41% , UC Berkeley</p>
<p>Given the current economic climate, the cost for an OOS student to attend these colleges will likely be a major consideration for many, many students. As the data below for Tuition & Fees reveals, there are significant differences in how costly these schools can be for OOS students: </p>
<p>Tuition & Fees , School</p>
<p>$ 14,634 , U Minnesota
$ 16,274 , Texas A&M</p>
<p>$ 21,386 , Georgia Tech
$ 21,400 , U Florida
$ 21,488 , Rutgers
$ 21,818 , U Wisconsin
$ 21,918 , Ohio State
$ 22,294 , U North Carolina
$ 22,342 , U Georgia
$ 23,076 , U Maryland
$ 23,219 , U Washington
$ 23,290 , U Pittsburgh
$ 23,401 , Clemson
$ 24,940 , Penn State</p>
<p>$ 25,334 , U Illinois
$ 25,722 , U Texas
$ 26,102 , UCLA
$ 27,176 , UC Irvine
$ 28,656 , UC Davis
$ 28,932 , UCSD
$ 29,181 , UC Santa Barbara
$ 29,326 , W&M
$ 29,540 , UC Berkeley
$ 29,600 , U Virginia</p>
<p>$ 32,401 , U Michigan</p>
<p>“Are there any Public Schools that are looking to expand their base of OOS Students and, as a result, admission standards are equivalent or less than for in-state students”</p>
<p>Hawkette: can we expand this inquiry outside the top 25 publics to include the large state flagships in the lower tiers? (i.e. Indiana, Colorado, Arizona, Binghamton, etc…) curious if data is available…</p>
<p>My mom’s friend that works/affiliated with one of the state schools in New Mexico says they are recruiting double-time OOS students. I don’t have any statistics to offer, but it seems plausible that there will be more OOS recruiting from certain schools!</p>
<p>rodney,
I typically have data on the USNWR Top 50 National Universities/USNWR Top 25 LACs and have recently expanded my work to include the USNWR Top 25 Publics. The data that you are asking for is definitely available, but it takes time to collect and perhaps you or some other poster will want to do that. I understand the interest, but there is a limit to how much I can regularly pull together. Sorry.</p>
<p>hawkette: that would be great…PM me when you can with an idea of where to find it…I’m recuperating from surgery so I do have the time…thanx</p>
<p>It’s all in the USNWR Premium online edition. Lots of good data, including all of what i have posted above.</p>
<p>Beyond that, you can find more in the CDSs that are posted on each college’s website. I would not, however, rely on the individual college’s admissions website as so much there is presented in a manipulated fashion, eg, showing accepted students data rather than enrolled which is an attempt to present a more selective environment than is actually the case. </p>
<p>Good luck with your recuperation…:)</p>
<p>CU (Colorado) is heavily recruiting OOS students, but it is an especially expensive school for OOS students. Tuition for OOS is $26,700, but there is an automatic scholarship of about $4K/year for OOS students in the top 25% of those admitted, and a much larger ($13K/year) scholarship for a subset of those. Traditionally they’ve gotten a lot of kids from California, but since California has been hit so hard economically I understand that the numbers are really down. CU has built a lot of budget assumptions around OOS enrollment, and I think they’re still hunting for kids. (And, they have absolutely topnotch programs in Mollecular & Cellular Biology, Aerospace Engineering, and excellent programs in Geography, Physics, and some Business areas. I think CU still holds the record for non-military academies who’ve had the most alumni who’ve flown in space. Lots of connections with NASA, and a very moving memorial to Ellison Onizuka, a CU grad who died when the Challenger craft exploded.)</p>
<p>To the OP,</p>
<p>I thought that you might be interested in the list of following schools which represent Kiplinger’s Top 25 Best Values for OOS students attending public universities. On this list, I have starred the eight prominent publics that also are ranked in the Top 50 National Universities by USNWR. </p>
<ol>
<li>SUNY Binghamton</li>
<li>SUNY Geneseo</li>
<li>U North Carolina (***ranked in USNWR Top 50)</li>
<li>U Florida (***ranked in USNWR Top 50)</li>
<li>Truman State (Missouri)</li>
<li>College of New Jersey</li>
<li>UC San Diego (***ranked in the USNWR Top 50)</li>
<li>U Virginia (***ranked in the USNWR Top 50)</li>
<li>William & Mary (***ranked in the USNWR Top 50)</li>
<li>U Minnesota</li>
<li>UC Berkeley (***ranked in the USNWR Top 50)</li>
<li>SUNY Stony Brook</li>
<li>U Maryland</li>
<li>U Georgia</li>
<li>U Wisconsin (***ranked in the USNWR Top 50)</li>
<li>Mary Washington</li>
<li>UCLA (***ranked in the USNWR Top 50)</li>
<li>U Delaware</li>
<li>North Carolina State U</li>
<li>Cal Poly San Luis Obispo</li>
<li>St. Mary’s College (Maryland)</li>
<li>U Pittsburgh</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>Virginia Tech</li>
<li>Ohio State</li>
</ol>
<p>The complete list can be found at:<br>
[Rankings</a> for 100 Best Values in Public Colleges](<a href=“http://www.kiplinger.com/tools/colleges/pubcollege.php]Rankings”>Kiplinger | Personal Finance News, Investing Advice, Business Forecasts)</p>
<p>I’m particularly interested in quality and rising 2nd and 3rd tier Publics (e.g. UMBC, UNCW) that may be actively looking for OOS to bridge budget shortfalls. Traditionally, OOS students have faced higher hurdles for admission. I was wondering if there are some exceptions to that rule where the admissions standards are on a par with the instate students.</p>