<p>Okay, so I just got my ap scores over the phone and I'm wondering if they'll have any effect on my chances of getting accepted to Columbia. I got 3's on all 3 exams I took this year (us, bio, and eng), which is also what I got on world history last year.</p>
<p>After looking over some threads, I see that most people believe ap exams are only used for placement (which is what I've heard, too) but I'm wondering if my 3's will show that I don't know the material well enough, when in reality I just didn't manage my time on all of these tests and didn't really take them too seriously. I basically didn't write one essay for each of these tests and didn't study too hard for them either (not that that's a valid excuse, though). But will high sat 2's (700+) in these subjects balance this out? Will my ap scores make my approx. 90 uw average in all of these classes seem too high, or will it have no effect? Basically, what I'm trying to say is: are ap's even SLIGHTLY considered in admissions or are they completely disregarded (except for placement/credit)?</p>
<p>I'm prob gonna score around 2200 on my sat's in oct. and hopefully write good essays and stuff, so that shouldn't be a problem; I'm just wondering about the ap scores. For me, getting accepted is already an uphill battle, but I'm still gonna give it a shot ED. If anyone has any information relevant to Columbia about this, could you please let me know? Thanks!</p>
<p>Yes, AP scores are only used for placement and credit. I did not submit any ap scores nor mention them at all in my application (they don’t have a specific place to mention a.p. scores unlike the common app…). However, A.P. scores DO tend to reflect how you will do in classes and the SAT II’s. At my school, the A.P. biology and statistics exams are jokes because each year, over 90% of people (about 180 people per section) score 5’s, and that’s without any studying. If you only received a 3 on bio, but you have an A in Biology, I’d advise you to study extremely hard for the SAT’s. For Columbia, a 760+ would be considered qualified, but to be competitive, you should aim for 780+ (unless you’re getting in through some hook like legacy, national science award, athletic recruitment, etc.). Also, don’t assume you’re going to score a 2200 on the SAT, unless you’re prepared to study a lot during the summer. I spent around 30 hours studying and got a 2320. My friend studied 0 hours and got a 2400… whereas another of my friends (a valedictorian going to M.I.T.) studied about as much as me and got a low 2000 the first time… she had to retake 3xs before she got 2300+. All I can say is, good luck and work hard and don’t be so quick to assume things.</p>
<p>Thanks. And yeah, I know what you mean about people having high expectations, but 2200 is realistic for me (I’ve already taken it before and come close). But when I looked at the columbia app from last year, I saw that it had a section for reporting sat 2’s AND ap scores, which was why I was curious.
For the subject tests, I’ll definitely be studying though.</p>
<p>I don’t even remember reporting my AP scores. SAT / SAT II’s only.</p>
<p>The only reason I’m asking is because there’s a spot for a “school official” to report ap scores on the secondary school report on the app, page 16 of the pdf. At first I missed it too, since it looks like its only for the sat 2’s.</p>
<p>Wait, how did you get your scores already??? I thought scores by phone started July 1?</p>
<p>i checked the ap forum and i found out that scores are up already… call 888-308-0013 (the number in the ap booklet) and follow the instructions (you need your ap number/ssn) to get them over the phone. It’s $8 for one call =)</p>
<p>Yeah, I just called up and got my scores for AP Calc AB, Physics B, Gov, Lit, and Spanish.</p>
<p>1 on the Spanish test, OOH RAH</p>