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<li><p>Should I apply to other Ivies if I am rejected ED at Cornell Engineering with a SAT score of 2170?</p></li>
<li><p>Has anyone been accepted to Columbia with 3 times taking the SAT?</p></li>
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<p>IMO stats may be not that awful a guideline to use for engineering college admissions in general, as they tend to be a bit less “holistic” and more stats-oriented than liberal arts colleges. And RD admissions will be if anything more competitive. Therefore if I were you I would be sure to apply to some engineering programs where your stats seem to be putting you right in the middle of the pack or above, and higher for a couple safeties. Of course you are entitled to apply to reach schools as well, but recognize that they are reach schools. With regard to Ivy league schools in particular, they will be highly holistic also, but for engineering as a minimum you still need highly competitive stats.</p>
<p>So getting into an engineer program of Ivies is harder? Do you think that I just need a high score in Math + Science as my CR score is not high? ( I am an international student)</p>
<p>If you have already taken the SAT, do not take it again. Eventually you will just look a “Test taker”, which isn’t a good thing. All ivies require submission of all scores, as do most, if not all top schools. Some consider only top score, while others consider all scores. If you didn’t get into Cornell ED, it’s unlikely you will get into any of the other ivies RD, since as was pointed out, ED gives a bonus to admission likelihood over RD. If you want to go for engineer, check out the top engineering schools and compare you SAT math score to their middle 50% and apply to some of those.</p>
<p>That’s discouraging</p>
<p>You should take a look at Carnegie Mellon and University of Michigan.</p>
<p>Also, dont forget that the Ivies aren’t that great for engineering. </p>
<p>GaTech
UIUC
Cal
UCSD
UCLA
UMich
Carnegie Mellon
UT Dallas</p>
<p>All are probably easier to get into and have better engineering programs.</p>
<p>…but I am an international student 
and I apply for aid :(.
Btw, UT dallas vs Ivies for Engineering (not Cornell or Princeton), what do u think?</p>
<p>to answer question #2, it doesnt matter too much how many times you took the sat</p>
<p>^^^ ee3ee: really ?</p>
<p>babyboom–I strongly encourage you to visit the websites or search for and read the common data sets (section C, admissions) for each of the colleges to which you might apply to see where your scores place you for individual colleges. </p>
<p>While those who post on CC are trying to be helpful, they might not know the latest information, or might make generalizations that aren’t accurate based on their own experiences. For example, this statement from above is not entirely accurate:</p>
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<p>Princeton is an Ivy and doesn’t require submission of all scores. My daughter is applying to 8 colleges, the majority of which would be considered top schools, and only one (Stanford) requires all scores.</p>
<p>At the same time, if you are thinking of taking the SAT in January, that may be too late for an international student to send in scores on time. Princeton, for example, says that December is the last testing date international students should take the SAT for that reason. Again, you should check the individual websites to make sure.</p>
<p>Does some EPGY online courses increase my chance? I intend to take some courses in Febuary. So do colleges require me to send transcript from those courses or EPGY does not offer transcripts for those courses? As I am afraid that non-transcript courses are not valued.
Or only courses from summer schools are valued?</p>
<p>bump 10 char</p>
<p>Penn and Cornell (RD) are the largest Ivies, and thus take a much larger freshman class. They are your best chances. It is quite possible that Penn would take a student Cornell rejected. Sometimes results have a good degree of randomness in them.</p>
<p>Oh by the way, I want to ask a question. Do colleges save the record of students who visit theỉr schools? As I visited some colleges, but I am not sure that they do it or not as I want to show my interest to them.</p>
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<li> Does some EPGY online courses increase my chance? I intend to take some courses in Febuary. So do colleges require me to send transcript from those courses or EPGY does not offer transcripts for those courses? As I am afraid that non-transcript courses are not valued.
Or only courses from summer schools are valued? </li>
<li> Do colleges save the record of students who visit theỉr schools? As I visited some colleges, but I am not sure that they do it or not as I want to show my interest to them.</li>
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<p>wow schokolade needs to read carefully next time. i never said colleges wont see all your scores, i said they won’t care too much if you took them many times. obviously within reason.</p>
<p>not only is it highest score counts, many colleges super score</p>
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<li>Does some EPGY online courses increase my chance? I intend to take some courses in Febuary. So do colleges require me to send transcript from those courses or EPGY does not offer transcripts for those courses? As I am afraid that non-transcript courses are not valued.
Or only courses from summer schools are valued?</li>
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<p>Some colleges track visitors because it’s useful in their later courting of those potential applicants. The Ivies’ popularity means they don’t have to use that sort of tool to attract application. Visits to Ivies won’t be used in their deliberations of you. Basically, “demonstrated interest” isn’t a point of interest for these tippy-top schools.</p>
<p>This thread is spiraling downward into the land of “which Ivy can I get into?” You need to learn about what Ivy League engineering means. It has a reputation of being “not real engineering.” This is incorrect. It is a different type of engineering, more progressive in nature, that combines elements from other disciplines including economics and psychology. Ivy league engineers are coveted in the finance and banking world for their cross disciplinary education and strong skills in critical thinking and evaluation. Evaluate what your passion in life is, and what you want out of your college experience, both social and academic, not how the name of your alma mater will sound at a dinner party.</p>