<p>just a quick question
this girl i know is telling everyone that she's number 2 on the yale waitlist. however, i KNOW that other ivies like harvard and columbia have no such ranking. my friend was also waitlisted and would liek to know if there is such a system or is this girl bsing?
thanks~</p>
<p>she is TOTALLY bsing</p>
<p>no, there isn't a ranking... at least they say they dont.</p>
<p>What an idiot. Even if the waitlist were ranked, why would you brag about it? "Ooh! I'm one of the top non-accepted applicants!"</p>
<p>that's hilarious.</p>
<p>it's funny how she picked #2 instead of #1</p>
<p>yea shes known to lie a lot about stuff liek that but i just wanted definite confirmation this time</p>
<p>Here is a confirmation (it was sent out with the waitlist letter):</p>
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<pre><code>INFORMATION FOR CANDIDATES ON THE WAITING LIST
It is unlikely that we will be able to take further action on your candidacy before mid-May, well after the reply date for most colleges. The following general information may be helpful as you consider whether or not to remain on our waiting list.
We do not establish a rank order for those on our waiting list. As places become available, we select the appropriate number of candidates from the group of all who remain on the list. If additional openings develop after this first round of decisions, we will repeat the process on a rolling basis. In a typical year, we offer admission in several rounds beginning in mid-May and concluding in mid-June.
We reach these decisions on the basis of the same information which was available to the admissions committee in March. Although you are always welcome to visit the campus, it is important to note that our staff does not conduct evaluative interviews during this period.
You should remain on our list if you have a strong interest in attending Yale, but make certain that you hold a place at another college. Most colleges have waiting lists of their own and recognize your right to keep your options open. If you have any questions about the appropriateness of such an action, raise them with your counselor or with an admissions officer at the college. When the same question is raised by those offered admission to Yale, we suggest that they hold their place here and stay on another colleges waiting list only if there is a strong possibility that they would accept an offer from that college if one were made. We believe that most admissions officers would give similar advice.
We are sorry to prolong the uncertainty with regard to your candidacy, but we do not expect anything further to develop until next month. If questions arise in the meantime, please do not hesitate to contact us.
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<p>hahah thanks that would do it</p>
<p>As students decline Yale's acceptance, the school pulls the most similar student or candidate from the waitlist to fill the void left by the other student. For instance, if a musician declines the college, and there is a musician and a mathematician on the waitlist, which would they choose? The musician would be chosen to fill in the gap reserved for the previous musician who declined acceptance.</p>
<p>Incidentally....I just heard today that Yale might go to its waitlist. However, that's generally a pretty small number they take.</p>
<p>You heard from what source?</p>
<p>Well rjs, I heard from my admissions officer as well that they are hoping to take from the waitlist this year.</p>
<p>From someone in admissions at yale who mentioned it to someone in admissions at Michigan. So, third-hand, but I have little reason to doubt it.</p>
<p>I did some math. </p>
<p>Heres the numbers: 1880 were admitted this year to fill a class of 1310 students; this would be a matriculation rate of 69.7% if the entire class was filled. Last year, including waitlisted students, 1958 were admitted for a class that ended up being 1308. This is a matriculation rate of 66.8%. Without the waitlisted students, the matriculation rate was 66.7%. Now, assuming a matriculation rate that is even higher for this year, say, 68.0%, that would yield a class of 1279 or so, leaving approximately 31 spots for waitlisted students. Even a 69.0% admit rate will leave about 10 spots for waitlisted students.</p>
<p>What does this mean? Well it means that unless Yales highly optimistic projections are spot-on, there will be students admitted off the waitlist and more than last years 8.</p>
<p>Bear this in mind: This year, even though the SCEA pool was smaller than last year. Yale took 710 from this pool rather than the 674 they took last year. There is an anticipated yield of 90% on the SCEA admits, so that if yield rates (SCEA and RD) are the same as last year, Yale can fill the class with about 33 fewer overall admits! </p>
<p>Thus the 1880 admits this year are equivalent to 1913 or so given last year's SCEA/RD mix, and Yale need not resort to the waitlist except to the extent that the overall yield rate drops below 68.5% and the RD yield rate drops below 54%.</p>
<p>Interesting "enrollment management" maneuver!</p>
<p>EDIT: put another way, last year, there were 715 RD admits who enrolled - including SCEA deferreds; this year, Yale will need only 671 matriculants from the RD pool to fill the target class of 1,310 if the larger number of SCEA admits return the expected yield of roughly 90%.</p>
<p>Byerly,</p>
<p>I redid the math the way you did and ended up with around 40 spots for the waitlist. Barring unprecedented high yield, there should be at least a couple spots. Lets assume SCEA yield is 90%. 710<em>0.9= 639. Assume RD yield rate of 54%. 1170</em>0.59= 631.4. 639+631.6= 1270.8.</p>
<p>However, if last year's reported yield of 72% persists, there will be no spots.</p>
<p>Any word on whether or not Tuesday's admission's retreat was to discuss waitlist applicants?</p>