<p>Unfortunately, S cannot attend the Direct Admit Day on 3/23rd. His main question right now is what does the typical class schedule for a direct admit student look like in their first year?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>your son got into IU? how come you didnt send him to illinois?</p>
<p>any insights on the biz sch as compared to others?</p>
<p>indiana is like top 10 in business. its really good</p>
<p>Kahlen,</p>
<p>He is still deciding between Indiana and UIUC. Right now he is leaning towards Indiana though.</p>
<p>If he was interested in Accounting, we would be strongly encouraging him to look harder at UIUC, but that is the one area of business in which he has no interest. </p>
<p>Frankly, IN is comparable to IL otherwise. The only difference I see between the 2 is that IL is more selective. And I don't think that is a good enough reason to choose one over the other. However, IN's I-Core semester is one reason to choose Kelley.</p>
<p>We're in Illinois and my son was also a direct admit at the Kelley School of Business. He didn't try to go to U of I (Champaign) because 1) we know kids with a 32 ACT and over a 4.0 gpa and they didn't get into the U of I declaring a business major, and 2) he thinks it's old and dumpy compared to IU. Having seen both, I agree with him.</p>
<p>Illinois has been under fire because it's pretty obvious they prefer to take out of state kids at a higher tuition rate. Their business school isn't as highly ranked as Kelley, so it's no great loss.</p>
<p>Anyway, IllinoisMom, my son took Economics and Finite math as well as English, History and Philosophy to fulfill some electives. That was the first semester. The second semester, I'm fuzzy about. Sorry!</p>
<p>Typical schedule depends on your test scores and AP credits, because a lot of direct admits for their freshman year can get out of certain math and english classes.</p>
<p>There are lots of classes required for the B-School before I-Core. Here are the ones he can take that have no prerequisites.<br>
* MATH M118 Finite Mathematics (honors version available)
* MATH M119 Brief Survey of Calculus (honors version available)
* ECON E201 Introduction to Microeconomics (honors version available)
* BUS G202 Business and Economic Strategy for the Public Arena
* BUS A100 Business Accounting Skills
* BUS X220 Career Perspectives
* ENG W131 Elementary Composition
* BUS K201 The Computer in Business (honors version available)
* CMCL C121 Public Speaking or BUS X104 Business Presentations (honors version available)</p>
<p>I'd recommend W131, M118, C121/X104, A100 and then 2 elective courses. That's a 16 credit load but not too bad.</p>
<p>Hmm. What's the I-core semester about?</p>
<p>That's interesting, i got into Indiana direct admit and recently found out i got into U of I business. U of I tuition is much cheaper since i'm instate and plus im majoring in accounting, Lord willing.</p>
<p>What made him choose Indiana over U of I?</p>
<p>Illinois Mom:</p>
<p>I wouldn't worry about being unable to go to Direct Admit Day. I did not go either. By the way where are you from in Illinois? I go to IU and I'm from Illinois as well.</p>
<p>My suggestions would be score at least a 32 on the ACT english section and you can waive W131. I was able to get "dual credit" through a community college for calculus, so I didn't have to take that. The more of those classes you can test out of the better. Especially the math and english ones because frankly they are a pain and they are not much use to business majors. (I got out of W131 and M119)</p>
<p>A2W, AimHIgh, and Jason,</p>
<p>Thanks for the course suggestions. I am especially happy to hear about the ACT English subscore of 32 getting you out of the W131 Comp class. You've given S a good idea of what his coursework would be his freshman year.</p>
<p>willovegod,</p>
<p>While S hasn't decided on IN 100% yet, I think he is leaning that way. With the $7K Faculty award the cost at IN is right in line with IL. I think a lot of his comfort level with IN has to do with quality of life and that he was admitted into Huttons Honor College. It just seems like a better fit.</p>
<p>Kahlen,</p>
<p>I suggest you take a look at the IU website regarding the I-core semester in your junior year. I can't describe it as well as the website.</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip. I checked my Onestart account. I'm exempt from W131 and something called MATH 199 (not 119). Anyone from IU know what Math 199 is?</p>
<p>You may want to recheck that or give the admissions office a call.....as far as I know Math 199 does not exist.</p>
<p>ddomino,</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip about checking the onestart site. My son's has him listed as getting credit for the same math class. It says MATH-M 199EX.</p>
<p>I can't find it in the course bulletins though. Something else to check on....</p>
<p>No one knew at Admissions or the Registrars office. One guess from the person answering phones in admissions might be that Math199 replaces Math119 for 2007-2008.</p>
<p>If you find out, would you please post?</p>
<p>My son's first semester schedule (he's a finance major) was:
Basic Accounting I
The Family in History (his minor is history)
Early American History 1865 to 1920s
Macroeconomics (basic)
Introduction to Management, and
Public Speaking</p>
<p>His second semester schedule is:
Survey of Calculus
Intro to TV program Design and Production
World Regional Geography
English Composition, and
Western Intellectual Thought (a senior level course in history--but it's what he wanted to take--and it's one of his two favorite classes along with the TV course)</p>
<p>He'll be taking the computer course and Intro to Financial Acct courses in the summer, then take his first finance and business law courses early next year. He'll apply for Kelley next fall (not a direct admit).</p>
<p>If he were direct admit, he'd probably have taken the computer and Microecon courses by now also.</p>
<p>Calcruzer, can your son double major in finance and history if he decides he wants to?</p>
<p>Looking at his schedule, he really likes history.</p>
<p>Do undergraduates have access to the trading room or financial information room or whatever they call it?</p>
<p>Kahlen, let me tell you about I-core--which is what makes Indiana unique.</p>
<p>In I-core, you sign up for 4 courses that basically all meet simultaneously. One professor comes in and starts teaching you about Production, then the next professor walks in and talks about Finance and how it applies to the production problem you were given by the other professor, then a third professor walks in and teaches you how you would market your product and what financial choices and analysis you did help you in deciding how the marketing should be done, then a fourth professor walks in and talks to you about some of the strategic choices you need to make in the management of your product--staffing, location, organizational structure, seasonality of the product, technological capability, etc. The point of this is that the class is as long or as short on each topic as need requires--and they bring in the next finance/operations/marketing/strategy topic so it follows in a logical sequence with what you just learned only hours earlier--not a semester earlier or later.</p>
<p>It's really unique--difficult to do--and from what I understand--really effective and an outstanding class/group of classes to take. You get 14 units for taking these 4 courses all at once--and you can only sign up for them altogether to make the program work.</p>
<p>dstark,</p>
<p>We looked at what it takes to double major and decided the answer is no if he wants to graduate in four years, but yes if he wants to graduate in five.</p>
<p>However, since that discussion my son is now considering switching from Finance to Business Law (still offered through Kelley) as a major (the major is actually called "Legal Studies"), he is thinking he could do that major along with history in four years if he takes a couple of summer school classes this year and maybe one extra class next year during the school year.</p>
<p>The point is that he thinks that Law School may be for him after he gets his Bachelors degree. It's still kind of too soon to know--although it strikes me as odd that he's already reading Business Law (contract) books in his spare time.</p>
<p>Calcruzer, thanks for your insights on I-core .. really good~</p>
<p>Hmm, your son could have taken computer and microecon classes by now? So does that mean he lose out to his other peers (direct admit) ? Who have already taken both the classes?</p>
<p>I thought being a direct admit and a non-direct admit .. you basically take the same classes for the first year. No?</p>
<p>Business law books, huh? The kids really do grow up.</p>
<p>I-core sounds like a great program.</p>
<p>I think not being able to major in business and a liberal arts field and graduate in four years is a negative.</p>
<p>I think it is a good thing to know something about business, and chemistry, biology, history, sociology, etc.</p>
<p>Then again, it's just thinking. I could be wrong.</p>