<p>Well, as stated, is it a factor? I am Native American (registered, enrolled, etc), and I'm applying to three programs, HPME, PLME, and BU's SMED. Do I have any advantage over someone from another race because of the fact that Natives are historically underrepresented in medicine? I'm in no way saying I deserve to be in one, nor that race should/shouldn't have anything to do with admissions, but I'm pretty sure in real life it is a factor.</p>
<p>Perhaps at PLME, which accepts a much larger number of students in the program (the majority of the entire student body of Brown Med are PLME)</p>
<p>Yeah there are some school for minority students...like Sophie Davis</p>
<p>wobudong,</p>
<p>Brown (Alpert Medical School) has increased its class size and is admitting more students through the standard route now (and will begin admitting some med school transfers) - so PLMEs are no longer the majority. I believe the plan is to continue increasing med class size, increasing the percentage of non-PLMEs over time. </p>
<p>According to the Brown website:
"For the Fall 2008 entering class, Alpert Medical School received 2,877 secondary applications and gave 76 offers of admission through the standard route.
Of the class entering in Fall 2009, an estimated 50-55% will be non-PLME students."</p>
<p>it is a factor.</p>
<p>this is real life here. any adcom would get tired of seeing mainly asians year after year.</p>
<p>I personally don't see it as a huge factor, esp. when you look at the roster of the UCSD Medical Scholars or the Northwestern HPME's. They're almost all Asians (70%+). </p>
<p>I think adcoms have decided that any racial imbalance within the BS/MD programs can be rectified in the selection of the rest of the med school class (via the traditional application process). With these programs being so small (5-30 kids normally), it's impossible to make sure everyone is adequately represented. As long as the racial makeup of the undergrad and the medical school is diverse, these BS/MDers shouldn't feel the effects of racial imbalance within the BS/MD program.</p>
<p>Yes, I believe it is a huge factor. I've talked to a couple admissions people about this and they know that the majority of applicants are indian and asians and the minorities that they are searching for are black, hispanic, and most definitely native american.</p>
<p>NA is the best race to be when it comes to admissions.</p>
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<p>I disagree with this. The high percentage of Asians in these programs is an indication that a large number of Asians apply. It's * not * an indication that BS/MD programs don't practice AA.</p>
<p>yea seriously im gonna marry a native american so my kids can have an advantage.</p>
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I disagree with this. The high percentage of Asians in these programs is an indication that a large number of Asians apply. It's not an indication that BS/MD programs don't practice AA.
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<p>A lot of Asians apply to med school but I don't see any med schools with 70% Asian population. Look, we know Asians are going to be overrepresented. 25%, 35%, maybe even 40%. But, if you look at the rosters of the UCSD Medical Scholars, year after year after year, they're almost ALL Indian and Asian. Just the fact you have a 2250 SAT cutoff for the application is an indication that affirmative action is not practiced. There are very very few underrepresented minorities with those scores.</p>
<p>Like I said, there's almost no incentive for AA to be practiced for these small programs. AA is already practiced in undergrad and med school admissions, what's the point of making sure every race is represented in these 5-10 person BS/MD programs? So, you can get a variety of races for the 2-3 BS/MD parties/gatherings you have a year?</p>
<p>hell yes jlksfd</p>
<p>Here's some data from Sept 2007 from UMDNJ.</p>
<p>Although nearly 90% of BS/MD'ers at TCNJ are Asians, here's the overall distribution in the first year of med school -</p>
<p>36% Asians (By the way, India is part of the continent of Asia. So Asians include Indians, Bangladeshi, Pakisthani, Chinese, Koreans, Phillipino etc.)
30% Caucasians
10.6% African Am.
13.5% Hispanic
8.8% not specified</p>
<p>of course race is a factor! med schools are tired of seeing overqualified indian and asian students, so they look for lesser qualified, but still top tier, minorities, such as blacks, native americans, and hispanics!</p>
<p>I never said that medical schools try to make sure every race is represented in these BS/MD programs. We often see many seemingly stellar Asian applicants get rejected, but I believe that if a URM were to possess high-end test scores and a stratospheric GPA, he or she would have a much easier time being accepted.</p>
<p>If you were a Martian visiting Earth and you decided to visit the Progs in the PennState-Jefferson program, you would assume 99% of all doctors are of Indian heritage (and I don't mean Native American Indian).</p>
<p>Gomez,</p>
<p>A friend's DS is in the program you are referring to. I have heard the same about their combined med program. Even for TCNJ/UMDNJ, 7 year program, I agree with you that ~90% kids are Asian. Of the matriculants, 13/23 are Indian. However, when you see the link above for UMDNJ total matriculants, the % even out. I have heard same happens at Jefferson's also.</p>
<p>The med schools are able to even out the total numbers based on applicants in the regular admission cycle.</p>