<p>Um, which Supreme Court case was that? Are you sure it was the U.S. Supreme Court?</p>
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According to a Supreme Court ruling in the 1980s, Jews ARE CONSIDERED their OWN race.
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<p>Supreme Court cases have citations, and are all online these days. When we consider that college forms don't list "races" that way, based on federal regulations that come from the Office of Management and Budget through the Department of Education, I doubt this very much. If you think this is true, show us the citation for the Supreme Court case you claim exists.</p>
<p>The following is from jewfaq.org, an Orthodox website. But you know the old saying: "two Jews, three opinoins". ;)</p>
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<p>In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the "Jewish race" or the "Italian race" as well as the "Negro race," so that is what the legislators intended to protect.</p>
<p>But many Jews were deeply offended by that decision, offended by any hint that Jews could be considered a race. The idea of Jews as a race brings to mind nightmarish visions of Nazi Germany, where Jews were declared to be not just a race, but an inferior race that had to be rounded up into ghettos and exterminated like vermin.</p>
<p>But setting aside the emotional issues, Jews are clearly not a race.</p>
<p>Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can't change your race; it's in your DNA. I could never become black or Asian no matter how much I might want to.</p>
<p>Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry, for example, by converting. Thus, although I could never become black or Asian, blacks and Asians have become Jews (Sammy Davis Jr. and Connie Chung).
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<p>Thanks, Booklady, that may be an explanation of what's going on here. If the statement is that a person who is invidiously prejudiced against Jewish people might be subject to laws banning "racial" discrimination, then I would say, sure, that could happen, and the Supreme Court may have said so in that context. But that would be equally true if the question were about a person who was prejudiced against Norwegian people, Greek people, or whatever. Current law does not favor invidious discrimination.</p>
<p>Can someone explain to me what the logic is behind Jews thinking that they are a race?</p>
<p>^Maybe if you read through this thread you would find the answer to that question in the numerous posts. </p>
<p>And for the record, Jews are an ethnicity, not a race.</p>
<p>I will kindly suggest that you see my above post (number 35). I know very few Jews who see Jewishness (note, not Judaism) as a race, but rather an ethnicity.</p>
<p>Lol. I wouldn't risk it, Zester.</p>
<p>"Well... I mean, it is a race. When the doctor asks you for your race, they want to know if you are ashkenazi or sephardic jew because genes and suseptability to diseases are different."</p>
<p>That doesn't mean it's a race. Probably other groups that are fairly in bred have common genetic characteristics, but that doesn't mean that they are classified as a race.</p>
<p>You guys know a few? That is surprising; I see a lot.</p>
<p>Ethnicity, come on people, say it with me, E-T-H-N-I-C-I-T-Y , not race. </p>
<p>Race is a broad term which separates people into white, black, asian, etc. One's ethnicity is much more specific and includes a groups culture and common biological background. Jews are part of the white race but are their own separate ethnicity characterized by a shared religion (Judaism) and biological similarities. Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are perfect examples of this.</p>
<p>Try this for what might be the Supreme Court case. </p>
<p>j</a>. - Jewish groups split on Supreme Court set-aside ruling </p>
<p>NOTE: the holding of the case was NOT that Jewish people constitute a race. Does anyone have a citation for a more on-point case?</p>
<p>You are alll just arguing over definitions, you know. Race v. ethnicity. Colleges mean one thing by it. The dictionary has a different definition. And it is used differently in speech.</p>
<p>My mom is Christian and my dad is Jewish. Although I'm not religiously Jewish, I consider myself ethnically Jewish.</p>
<p>Great example d_galin09</p>
<p>Why doesn't somebody just look at the U.S. Census's definition of race? I'm way too lazy to go look, but if someone were to do it, I think most can agree that the U.S. Census's definitions of race are probably pretty close to those of universities. Then, we don't need to have a bunch of these threads of meaningless bickering.</p>
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Random Q-
If you check "white/caucasian", and then do other - "Human", do you think adcoms would be ****ed, or would think you're racist.
I want to do it to like point out that color shouldn't do with race, since we're all humans.
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<p>They'd think of you as immature, and they're not interested in coming up with Greater Insights About Humanity, they're interested in knowing your race.</p>
<p>I agree with Pizzgirl. The CoA is not a time for glib commentary.</p>
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Why doesn't somebody just look at the U.S. Census's definition of race? I'm way too lazy to go look
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<p>Anyone can find the definitions, spelled out for a few groups and linked to for the rest, in the first few posts of the FAQ thread. </p>
<p>Hey, I try to save people effort (and I thank the CC participant who first posted those links in another thread last year) but people do have to look to gain knowledge from the huge amount of information posted online.</p>