<p>Oh, here is a good one</p>
<p>"Or what about the fact that EVERY Big Ten school outranks EVERY SEC public university except Florida and Georgia---as do Pitt, Rutgers, and the Universities of Maryland, Connecticut, Delaware, and SUNY Binghamton?"</p>
<p>I was defending Florida and Georgia ONLY, not the other SEC schools. </p>
<p>bClintock,
Why are you so desultory?</p>
<p>"Now, I am not aware of any good privates in the state of Florida and that seems pathetic for a state that large."</p>
<p>|</a> University of Miami</p>
<p>This is kind of fun......I still wonder why the North East charges so much in taxes for schools and produce lower quality schools than Florida and Georgia. Any theories? Why is it that SUNY can have a school like Binghamton filled with Cornell caliber students and not be at the top of the National/International food chain, yet NY is one of the highest taxing states in the US?</p>
<p>How We Calculate the Up-and-Coming Colleges and Universities Rankings</p>
<p>By Robert Morse
Posted August 21, 2008</p>
<p>In the spring of 2008, U.S. News asked top academics as part of the regular U.S. News peer assessment survey to name the schools that they think are "Up-and-Coming Institutions." College presidents, provosts, and admissions deans were asked to nominate up to 10 colleges in their U.S. News America's Best Colleges ranking category "that are making improvements in academics, faculty, students, campus life, diversity, and facilities. These schools are worth watching because they are making promising and innovative changes." This item on the peer survey enabled college officials to pick schools within their ranking category that are rapidly evolving in ways that the public should be aware of and that are not always quickly noticeable in a college's year-to-year rankings.</p>
<p>The "Up and Coming" rankings are based solely on the responses to this section of the peer survey. The following lists, organized by U.S. News ranking categories, contain the 70 colleges that received the most nominations by top college officials for being an up-and-coming institution. They are ranked in descending order based on the number of nominations they received.</p>
<p>Best Colleges: Up-and-coming National Universities</p>
<p>This spring, for the first time, U.S. News asked the experts who respond to its annual peer assessment survey to identify schools that fit this profile. The 70 that received the most nominations range from household names like the University of Southern California to Grand Valley State in Allendale, Mich., and Salve Regina, a 2,000-student Catholic university in Newport, R.I.</p>
<p>George Mason University Fairfax, VA Rank
1<br>
Clemson University Clemson, SC Rank
2<br>
University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA Rank
3<br>
Arizona State University Tempe, AZ Rank
4<br>
University of Maryland--Baltimore County Baltimore, MD Rank
5<br>
Drexel University Philadelphia, PA Rank
6<br>
University of Central Florida Orlando, FL Rank
7<br>
Portland State University Portland, OR Rank
7<br>
University of San Diego San Diego, CA Rank
9<br>
University of North Carolina--Charlotte Charlotte, NC Rank
9<br>
University of California--Riverside Riverside, CA Rank
9<br>
University of South Carolina--Columbia Columbia, SC Rank
9<br>
Azusa Pacific University Azusa, CA Rank
9<br>
University of California--San Diego La Jolla, CA Rank
14<br>
Ohio State University--Columbus Columbus, OH Rank
14<br>
University of California--Irvine Irvine, CA Rank
14<br>
Northeastern University Boston, MA Rank
14<br>
Indiana University-Purdue University--Indianapolis Indianapolis, IN Rank
14<br>
University of South Florida Tampa, FL Rank
14<br>
Ball State University Muncie, IN Rank
14 </p>
<h2>Link: Best</a> Colleges - Education - US News and World Report</h2>
<p>I see University of South Florida being the only Florida school recognized(ranked) by the experts... Interesting!</p>
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<p>Ummm . . . so Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota et al. aren't in the "north"? They sure were back in the Civil War days. When did they get kicked out? And I'll bet there are just as many transplants from THIS part of the north in said southern states as there are from the Northeast.</p>
<p>Or don't they teach geography down there in Dixie?</p>
<p>Mchigan is not in the north? My god, It's below zero outside right now and I'm not whistling Dixie!</p>
<p>Or don't they teach geography down there in Dixie?</p>
<p>High school graduate in NY
College graduate from State University of New York at Oswego, which happens to actually in my opinion be a very solid school. (again, you're reading comprehension not so good?)</p>
<p>Graduate degrees from U- South Florida and U-Florida.</p>
<p>Canada is in the North, too. Michigan is considered to be MidWest, though by general acceptance. And, yes, I understand the colld,I went to college on Lake Ontario.</p>
<p>what do you call the Dakotas? midwest, west, north??</p>
<p>As for myself, I went to college on land. Since I am a very poor swimmer, I'd say it was a good move on my part.</p>
<p>^ touche...:D
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My god, It's below zero outside right now and I'm not whistling Dixie!
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It's been in the 80s here all week. Although I do miss winter.</p>
<p>There is about a foot and a half of snow here in Cleveland, wind chill is way below zero and nobody knows how to drive in snow.</p>
<p>"As far as Penn State, the median SAT is 1195- admittedly respectable but significantly lower than GA and Florida. No one has addressed the fact that the North Eastern Schools charge more tax for less quality."</p>
<p>Tomslawsky,
Penn State University Park's admission only bases 1/3 of its decision on the SAT, so it's not surprising it's lower than GA or FL. The fact that PSU puts an emphasis on other things for admission doesn't make FL or GA better. Penn State outranks them both, so you can keep the higher SAT score. Plus, what do you know about the undergraduate education of a school down south? You went to college on a lake up north. Again, besides Vanderbilt and maybe Florida, the SEC is lacking in academics and doesn't measure up to the Big Ten.</p>
<p>^^ excuses excuses</p>
<p>The only reason Penn State is ranked ahead of UF is because they have some of the most expensive in-state tuition for all publics. On the other hand UF has the least expensive for a public flagship. Watch the rankings now that UF is going to catch up to the national average in just a few years.</p>
<p>The quality of students are way stronger at UF in comparison to Penn State.</p>
<p>SEC in My opinion, the only worthwhile schools:
Vandy
Florida
Georgia
Tenn.</p>
<p>^^
Bama, South Carolina and Auburn are also decent, a lot of people say Bama is better than UT.</p>
<p>UCBchem how bout that Cal basketball team.....Montgomery might be challenging Tedford for greatness. Plus girls bball is ranked top ten, girls tennis #2, volleyball ranked #6, men's swimming and polo top ten, plus crew and rugby are always at the top. Once the athletic center is finally built I'm seeing a possible new Golden Age for Cal Athletics. Although I must say UF is still way ahead when it comes to football.</p>
<p>..and Cal is WAY ahead when it comes to academics.</p>
<p>"The quality of students are way stronger at UF in comparison to Penn State."</p>
<p>I'm sorry. I can't really argue the strength of a student when the only thing that you use to describe them is by using an opinion as vague as "way stronger". I will try to respond in a way you can understand. Penn State students are like totally like way better and stronger than UF, dude. Ok, I now revise my original statement to say:</p>
<p>"Again, besides Vanderbilt, the SEC is lacking in academics and doesn't measure up to the Big Ten."</p>
<p>I agree jec7483. If you compare the SEC to conferences (even though they are athletic conferences) such as the Big Ten, ACC, and some of the Big East and Pac 10 schools, they are not really up to par.</p>