<li><p>Vanderbilt</p></li>
<li><p>University of Florida</p></li>
<li><p>University of Georgia</p></li>
<li><p>University of Tennessee, University of Alabama, Auburn University</p></li>
<li><p>University of South Carolina</p></li>
<li><p>University of Kentucky</p></li>
<li><p>Louisiana State University</p></li>
<li><p>University of Arkansas</p></li>
<li><p>University of Mississippi</p></li>
<li><p>Mississippi State University</p></li>
</ol>
<p>I really think that it depends on the programs. I go to Tennessee and will vouch that overall its a really great school, but some programs are much better than others.</p>
<p>Alabama, Arkansas, and Mississippi have fairly small undergrad populations. Does anybody know if this results in class size and student-faculty interaction being significantly better than at the schools with 25,000 and more undergrads?</p>
<p>UGA is soaring right now due to the HOPE scholarship keeping many of the top students in state. HOPE is also helping the rest of the USG as well.</p>
<p>Eventually UGA will overtake UF in the rankings as they are close now, but I don't put as much stock in the rankings as many one this forum do.</p>
<p>It does seem that the emphasis at UGA is more on grad work and research rather than undergrad education.</p>
<p>Nobody important, I would have to disagree with you on the undergrad at UGA statement. UGA is putting a lot of $$ in their honors program, which is far and away the best honors program in the whole SEC (believe me, I looked into all of them- it blows places like Florida's right out of the water). Of course there's an emphasis on research, but there's also a huge emphasis on undergrad research as well- something like 55% of graduating seniors at UGA engaged in at least one research class. </p>
<p>As far as the other rankings go, I might put Arkansas up a bit higher, especially in the social sciences, and UT a bit lower, esp. in the non-engineering majors. Alabama's actually pretty good and getting better quickly, so it probably deserves its relatively high rank.</p>
<p>Totally an oos perspective - from a state with too many graduating seniors for instate spots - </p>
<p>Alabama and Auburn are where a lot of kids who can't get into UT or A&M go, Georgia is thought of as more of a reach, tougher to get in, Florida is thought of as almost impossible oos unless you are NMF, Vanderbilt is thought of as academically great but expensive $$$$. LSU, Arkansas and Ole Miss are where you go when you can't get into Tech and can't afford TCU.</p>
<p>"Eventually UGA will overtake UF in the rankings as they are close now, but I don't put as much stock in the rankings as many one this forum do."</p>
<p>I disagree with this statement. The University of Florida has over half a billion in research expenditures (whereas UGA only has around 150 million). Also the Endowment at UF is about to pass the $one-billion mark, whereas UGA doesn't even have a $50 million endowment.</p>
<p>Vanderbilt is obviously outstanding. Florida is another great school that like UT Austin, Penn State, and the mid-tier UCs (UC Davis, Irvine, and UCSB) struggle to obtain respect from elitists and prestige wh0res. </p>
<p>Yeah, the "Special Education Conference" is tasteless. It's funny that a lot of ppl who make those Special Ed Conference jokes are mostly ppl from the West Coast though, ie USC fans. Michigan fans make that joke too.</p>
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<p>I disagree with this statement. The University of Florida has over half a billion in research expenditures (whereas UGA only has around 150 million). Also the Endowment at UF is about to pass the $one-billion mark, whereas UGA doesn't even have a $50 million endowment.
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<p>UGA has a MAJOR research center in the process of opening right now that will GREATLY increase the amount of research dollars spent here. There are also three more major lab complexes under way now. UGA is also in the running for a new bio-defense federal complex that would also greatly increase the amount of research dollars spent.</p>
<p>UGA raised $108 million this year in donations (a record for UGA). The entire Riverbend Road area is slated in the master plan for research complexes.</p>
<p>UGA may actually be on a very slow rise. I will take your word for it, as I haven't taken the time to do extensive research on the progress that is currently being made in Athens. </p>
<p>I was just showing the variables that UF has over UGA in the US News rankings. Clearly it will take more than just these small projects to jump UF in the rankings (This would assume that UGA jumps 13 spots, and UF stays stagnant, which is kind of out of the realm of possibilities when you factor in the way that Florida's economy has been booming lately). Remember that it is highly unlikely that UF will fail to improve in it's rankings either.</p>
<p>Look at the rankings. There really isn't much difference between the two schools. There is a .3 difference in GPA of entering students, 30 points difference in SAT scores, UGA actually leads in the two class size rankings and prof/student ratio. The area where UF really has a jump on UGA is a 57% vs. 65% acceptance rate, and if the USG ever lives up to its word on capping enrollment at UGA that number will change. So, UGA is actually very close to catching UF in the rankings.</p>
<p>UGA also had a record breaking fund raising year, which goes into the rankings. </p>
<p>UGA's entering student GPA is the highest ever, and the average SAT scores keep jumping every year. HOPE really has launched UGA, the research end of it is really taking off as well.</p>
<p>All that being said, the rankings are just numbers. I can't speak for the student experience (more important IMO than the pure rankings) at UF. That may very well be an advantage for UF. UGA is not a student driven school. It's a research/faculty driven school. This hurts it in my view despite what the numbers say.</p>
<p>As long as Georgia Tech & Emory are still taking the best and brightest out of the state of Georgia, I don't see how UGA will ever be able to compete with UF for the quality of their undergraduate students. Fact: the State of Florida is booming with new people everyday. This will ultimately make our selection pool larger and larger to choose from. Also UF has now put themselves into position to cherry pick every top student who comes into the Florida State University System.</p>
<p>Have you checked the stats for the number of in-staters at GT and Emory (private)? I honestly don't know what the numbers are but it "seems" like they have huge out-of-state enrollments. GT gets the engineers, but they really don't take anything else away from UGA. UGA's biggest competition was always UNC and UVA, but HOPE has been keeping those students home.</p>
<p>UGA keeps admitting ever larger freshmen classes, which hurts the selectivity ranking. If it would ever stand by its cap they would jump that ranking a good bit.</p>
<p>The current administration seems determined to improve the academic standings, but it is facing a constant fight from football fans a fraternities in doing so. It does seem the USG is backing President Adams though as it has had plenty of reason to can him if they wanted to do so for political reasons, but the academic improvement and his fund raising keeps him in office.</p>
<p>Of course all of these numbers reflect undergrad stats. I honestly don't know where the respective gradaute programs stack up against each other.</p>
<p>Well the University of Florida is ranked in almost every graduate program it offers. UF's peer assesment score is 3.6 and this is because we have a strong reputation in almost everything.</p>