Rank these state schools from best to worst

ncody0220 · February 11, 2007, 6:37pm

<li>University of Illinois</li>
<li>University of Washington</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>University of Texas</li>
<li>University of Florida</li>
<li>University of Maryland</li>
<li>Clemson University</li>
<li>Indiana University</li>
<li>Michigan State University</li>
<li>University of Minnesota</li>
</ol>

footballyus2345 · February 11, 2007, 6:49pm

<ol>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>Texas</li>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Minnesota</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>Indiana</li>
<li>MSU</li>
</ol>

IsleBoy · February 11, 2007, 6:53pm

Before I get flamed, it's just an opinion based on personal criteria and experience with some of the admissions departments, familiarity of certain programs, financial aid, and the opinion of friends who attend, or have attended the colleges.

<ol>
<li> UIllinois</li>
<li> Penn State</li>
<li> UTexas</li>
<li> UFlorida</li>
<li> UWashington (unresponsive/unorganized, even for a huge university)</li>
<li> UMaryland </li>
<li> MSU (good honors/small college options)</li>
<li> Indiana U (not-so-hot aid for out-of-staters)</li>
<li> Clemson</li>
<li>UMinnesota (lack of spirit/cohesion of student body, housing issues)</li>
</ol>

northeastmom · February 11, 2007, 7:22pm

IsleBoy, Could you tell me a bit about the small college options at MSU. You can send a PM, b/c I don't mean to hijack this thread.

Luxar3000 · February 11, 2007, 7:34pm

<ol>
<li>Texas-Austin</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>U of Illinois</li>
<li>U Indiana</li>
<li>U Maryland</li>
<li>U Washington</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>MSU</li>
<li>U Minnesota</li>
</ol>

Worried_Student · February 11, 2007, 7:45pm

<ol>
<li>University of Washington</li>
<li>University of Texas</li>
<li>University of Maryland</li>
<li>University of Illinois</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>University of Florida</li>
<li>University of Minnesota</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>Michigan State</li>
<li>Indiana U</li>
</ol>

ohh_miss_zanna · February 11, 2007, 7:52pm

<ol>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>Texas</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
<li>Michigan State</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>Indiana</li>
<li>Minnesota</li>
</ol>

2331clk · February 11, 2007, 9:05pm

Texas
Illinois/Penn State
Florida/Washington/Maryland
Indiana
Minnesota
Clemson
Michigan State

actually I think there isn't that much difference between the best and the worst. I think they all overlap to some extent.

SoCal18 · February 11, 2007, 9:09pm

<ol>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Texas</li>
<li>Indiana</li>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
<li>Michigan State</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>Minnesota</li>
</ol>

spaceball519 · February 11, 2007, 9:31pm

<ol>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>Texas</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
<li>Minnesota</li>
<li>Michagin State</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Indiana</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
</ol>

IsleBoy · February 11, 2007, 9:47pm

Northeastmom:

Here are the links, might be useful to others on this thread as well, especially if they are concerned about the education that they could get. :)

James Madison:
<a href="http://www.jmc.msu.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://www.jmc.msu.edu/</a>

Lyman Briggs:
<a href="http://www.lymanbriggs.msu.edu/index.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.lymanbriggs.msu.edu/index.php</a>

Residential Option for Science & Engineering Students:
<a href="http://www.ns.msu.edu/roses/index.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.ns.msu.edu/roses/index.asp</a>

Residential College in Arts & Humanities:
<a href="http://www.rcah.msu.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://www.rcah.msu.edu/</a>

Residential Option in Arts & Letters:
<a href="http://www.roial.msu.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://www.roial.msu.edu/</a>

Honors College:
<a href="http://www.msu.edu/unit/honcoll/%5B/url%5D">http://www.msu.edu/unit/honcoll/</a>

Hope this helps. Think of the options as a college within a larger university. Some of them have specific requirements, while others are more loosely structured. They all make MSU feel a lot more intimate.

:)

slipper1234 · February 11, 2007, 10:10pm

<ol>
<li>University of Texas</li>
<li>University of Illinois</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>University of Florida</li>
<li>Univerity of Washington</li>
<li>University of Maryland</li>
<li>Indiana University</li>
<li>University of Minnesota</li>
<li>Clemson </li>
<li>Michigan State University</li>
</ol>

brand_182 · February 11, 2007, 10:14pm

<ol>
<li> UT-Austin</li>
<li>UIUC</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>UWash</li>
<li>UFlorida</li>
<li>University of Maryland</li>
<li>UMinn</li>
<li>MSU</li>
<li>Indiana</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
</ol>

Keep in mind I don't know much about the last three.

viva_sweet_love · February 11, 2007, 11:18pm

What US News says:
U. Ill Urbana-Champaign
U Washington
Penn State U. University Park
UF
UT Austin
U. Maryland
U. Minn
Indiana Bloomington/MSU
Clemson

As with all rankings, take it with a grain of salt. I know some people who got into Penn State out of state but not UF in state. And I'm sure the reverse is true.

dhl3 · February 11, 2007, 11:21pm

Texas
Illinois
Washington
Penn State
Maryland
Florida
MSU
Minnesota
Indiana
Clemson

Quincy4 · February 11, 2007, 11:25pm

Just curious. All of you have ranked Maryland over MSU as a college, despite the fact MSU has (not in the order of importance):

1) larger library
2) larger endowment
3) much longer tradition as a major college/university (MSU's the "pioneer land grant school" while Maryland is just another land grant school)
4) related to #3, a considerably larger body of more famous alumni base – including a longer history of more famous alums stretching back to the 19th Cent
5) older/better known honors
6) more top 10-20 ranked fields, by most objective services
7) older, more established residential college system (ie, UMd res programs often require students to be honors level students while MSU's program generally do not, yet offer honors-type atmosphere in terms of rigor, esp James Madison and Lyman Briggs ... the new Residential College in Arts & Humanities (RCAH) seems headed for this MSU tradition (see IsleBoy's excellent reference w/ links, above).

... I could go on, but, I guess the point is, while Maryland is a fine school and has been on the upswing for the last decade or so, it’s kind of a more Johnny-come-lately school compared to MSU, which has been on the quality school radar for a considerably longer time period. For quick reference (if you think I'm making this up), compare wiki entries:

MSU: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_State_University%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_State_University</a>

(see, specifically, MSU History cite): <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Michigan_State_University%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Michigan_State_University</a>

Maryland: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Maryland%2C_College_Park%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Maryland%2C_College_Park</a>

(Maryland does not have a specific history wiki, but UMd history is noted w/in the main article)

. . .

Are you guys solely relying on USN&WR as Gospel? ... Like I said: just curious.

viva_sweet_love · February 11, 2007, 11:28pm

I definitely know nothing about these schools except for UF. I was just posting what US News had to say as an interesting basis for comparison. Oftentimes reputation and rankings with formulas don't align, showing that some arbitrary numerical calculation by a magazine isn't everything.

Groenveld9 · February 12, 2007, 4:04pm

I am with Quincy on this, most of those rankings were about right when you are looking at the whole, but don't make MSU for a crapshoot school and clemson is not half bad either.
Not to hijack but could some smart guy with all the college rankings in the world in his head rank these on their IR/Poli Sci programs. Thanks smart ranking guy.
Cheers

a778999 · February 12, 2007, 7:30pm

<ol>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>University of Washington</li>
<li>University of Maryland</li>
<li>University of Illinois</li>
<li>University of Texas</li>
<li>University of Florida</li>
<li>University of Minnesota</li>
<li>Michigan State University</li>
<li>Clemson University</li>
<li>Indiana University</li>
</ol>

They're all at pretty much the same level.

FSU_MBA · February 26, 2007, 1:15am

<ol>
<li> Maryland</li>
<li> Texas</li>
<li> Washington</li>
<li> Illinois</li>
<li> Penn State</li>
<li> Indiana</li>
<li> Minnesota</li>
<li> Michigan State</li>
<li> Florida
10.Clemson</li>
</ol>

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